
Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:14:13

raven.oscar
17.04.2018
15:15:29

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:15:41
So, when fedo breaks and says oops, where do these error messages go?

Alex
17.04.2018
15:15:52

Google

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:16:14
This will either go down as giant shitshow and riot from the people as russia blocks all aws/google services and fails
or as example how to force google/aws into submission.
I hope its the former.
I wish telegram started adding a local, p2p mode for restricted states

Bandikoot
17.04.2018
15:17:40
wow, it really happened

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:27:31


Alex
17.04.2018
15:28:22
For the last 24 hours Telegram has been under a ban by internet providers in Russia. The reason is our refusal to provide encryption keys to Russian security agencies. For us, this was an easy decision. We promised our users 100% privacy and would rather cease to exist than violate this promise.
Despite the ban, we haven’t seen a significant drop in user engagement so far, since Russians tend to bypass the ban with VPNs and proxies. We also have been relying on third-party cloud services to remain partly available for our users there.
Thank you for your support and loyalty, Russian users of Telegram. Thank you, Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft – for not taking part in political censorship.
Russia accounts for ~7% of the Telegram user base, and even if we lose that entire market, Telegram’s organic growth in other regions will compensate for this loss within a couple of months. However, it is important for me personally to make sure we do everything we can for our Russian users.
To support internet freedoms in Russia and elsewhere I started giving out bitcoin grants to individuals and companies who run socks5 proxies and VPN. I am happy to donate millions of dollars this year to this cause, and hope that other people will follow. I called this Digital Resistance – a decentralized movement standing for digital freedoms and progress globally.


Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:29:06
That is simply awesome ?
The same idea i'd love to be used for social networks and cloud providers (many decentralized nodes)

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:29:58
This guy is such a badass.

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:30:05
The latter part i can easily offer myself already, with my claut being open to lots of people

Tom
17.04.2018
15:31:10

Nick
17.04.2018
15:33:13
Telegram app has some mechanism to detect unavailable ips, so it can use another one as soon as current ip get blocked

Google

Anchit
17.04.2018
15:33:21

Nick
17.04.2018
15:33:37
That's why Telegram works okay without proxy
except web version

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:34:13
Our govt spies on users the old school way by literally hiring spies to infiltrate WhatsApp groups

Vitaly
17.04.2018
15:34:27
Russian government need to ban 0.0.0.0/0 subnet to completely block Telegram.

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:34:42

Gwindor
17.04.2018
15:34:44

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:34:46

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:34:59

Vitaly
17.04.2018
15:35:05

Gwindor
17.04.2018
15:35:16

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:35:17
GNU Social is love

Anchit
17.04.2018
15:35:25

Nick
17.04.2018
15:35:29

Gwindor
17.04.2018
15:35:33
Won't completely block Telegram, as you say. :)

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:35:43

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:35:51

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:36:06
There's not much benefit to using them for most people.

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:36:21
Problem is that no one uses it.
The global use is rising fast, having about 766,500 users as of August 1, 2017,[4] and rising to 1 million users on December 1st 2017.
(Mastodon)

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:36:30
No one wants to use a subpar service ?♂️

Google

Vitaly
17.04.2018
15:36:36

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:36:44
They don't use them because noone is there and noone is there because they don't use them. 22.

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:36:48
Though I applaud these platforms for the work they've done.

Anchit
17.04.2018
15:37:04

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:37:07
Which is mostly techies.
Which is perfect for techies.

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:37:27
Yeah, it's got kinda of a hacky feel
Pretty neat. I might try it again someday.

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:38:00
Diaspora has the most users iirc
Someone should tell Musk to use Mastodon now he's deleted his Facebook

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:39:54
Oh damn i should setup both mastodon and diaspora on my server sometime.

Marcos
17.04.2018
15:40:32
fedora cinnamon 28 beta is very good

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:41:27

Marcos
17.04.2018
15:43:13
I talked about the spin cinnamon that is in beta

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:43:32

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:44:00

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:44:37
Does he reply all mails like Stallman?

Sid
17.04.2018
15:45:29

Gwindor
17.04.2018
15:45:39

Google

Sid
17.04.2018
15:45:51

Denis
17.04.2018
15:47:37
I'm in Russia and here too. But without any proxy/VPN

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:48:05
Ping

Gwindor
17.04.2018
15:48:09
Pong

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:48:22
What's cheers in Russian?

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:48:23
Mastodon just doesn't feel like a good alternative to Twitter for me because it just creates multiple points of failure.

Admin
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베이직
17.04.2018
15:48:35

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:49:17

베이직
17.04.2018
15:49:36
FYI my mastdon is @Basix@mastodon.technology

Anchit
17.04.2018
15:49:49
Coming back to the Telegram topic, I think Putin would not want to appear weak and I don't think he will relent to protest about internet freedom.
Also, he knows that Google, Amazon and Microsoft will soon give in to continue working in Russia.

Sid
17.04.2018
15:50:19

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:50:54

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:51:06

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:51:37

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:51:39

Le Schyken
17.04.2018
15:51:39
That right there is an immediate blocker for me.

베이직
17.04.2018
15:51:54

Tobias?
17.04.2018
15:52:10

Vitaly
17.04.2018
15:52:39

Google

Anchit
17.04.2018
15:53:15

Sid
17.04.2018
15:53:46

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
15:54:32

Alex
17.04.2018
16:01:04
?

Nick
17.04.2018
16:13:37

Саи Пранеетх Редды
17.04.2018
16:14:09

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
16:14:23
RIP Gwindor

Justin
17.04.2018
16:15:19

Allanitomwesh
17.04.2018
16:15:34
So much swag

Justin
17.04.2018
16:17:20
Please don't spam the group with one character messages.

베이직
17.04.2018
16:17:31
Where did you get that bag?

Anchit
17.04.2018
16:17:41

Justin
17.04.2018
16:18:07

Саи Пранеетх Редды
17.04.2018
16:19:36
Wew. I want that bottle!