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the reason to use AMD is not that X86 vulnerabilities that only affect intel

Moar cores moar speed less dent in the wallet

And Intel. And they work.

The same intels that have such a grave design error that you can expect 30% slowdown across the board now that they dont plan to fix with meltdown?

Well, Intel worked only

which AMD failed for you

A simple ryzen 7 will suffice, you should look to grab a good rx or vega gpu along with it.

They're pretty good and easy with mild OC as well. Save a little money with a non-X and bump it a couple hundred MHz or so without needing a water bucket nearby ?

It's 7:00 i don't remember the name of those bugs they had... ghost? phantom? or something like that? It affected amd TOO

Meltdown doesnt affect amd and its the worse of the two.

which AMD failed for you

None, literally none

They're pretty good and easy with mild OC as well. Save a little money with a non-X and bump it a couple hundred MHz or so without needing a water bucket nearby ?

Not that they really need it either

Much much worse.

None, literally none

then WTF is that point

thats blind brand loyalty

then WTF is that point

Bias

thats blind brand loyalty

Yep

The same intels that have such a grave design error that you can expect 30% slowdown across the board now that they dont plan to fix with meltdown?

Not to mention shipping chips with known flaws because why the hell not. :/

its price to performance, stock cooling and APUs

That. Amd just beats the crap out of intel with the ryzen lineup im performance for your money and unlike intel you can trust in am4 to be upgradeable for quite some time.

Not to mention shipping chips with known flaws because why the hell not. :/

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thats blind brand loyalty

No. It's not. It's just that I'd buy something that always work for me. But that's my opinion and I'm entitled to have it,

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My hero! ?

No. It's not. It's just that I'd buy something that always work for me. But that's my opinion and I'm entitled to have it,

that is brand loyalty

And you have no rights to be agressive @KawaiiVoldemort

imagine if you bought a samsung fridge

and it never failed

@KawaiiVoldemort, @Schyken, @Allanitomwesh , tone down the rhetoric, please. People are allowed to have opinions without you stomping down on them.

You're testing my patience

so you would never buy something else

The only thing i miss is a amd variant of me_cleaner

@KawaiiVoldemort, @Schyken, @Allanitomwesh , tone down the rhetoric, please. People are allowed to have opinions without you stomping down on them.

Lol

and it never failed

LG instantly trash

Lol

I'm NOT joking.

LG instantly trash

^^This

so you would never buy something else

For work, no. For me, yes, of course.

I'm NOT joking.

You're over thinking it. If you'd like to contribute to the discussion, you're welcome to ?‍♂️

I'm curious anyway

imagine if you bought a samsung fridge

Do they still make those?

Do they still make those?

yea we have a samsung fridge at home

it works

You're over thinking it. If you'd like to contribute to the discussion, you're welcome to ?‍♂️

I don't have an opinion re: this matter. And I'm not over thinking anything. Please don't tell me how I feel.

yea we have a samsung fridge at home

Ah, I wasn't sure if they caught on. /Me still had a super old fridge from like 1998

For work, no. For me, yes, of course.

Why however - on a budget amd currently delivers the best performance on sockets that will be upgraded for years to come, unlike intel that drops the socket every two years, forcing you to buy a fully new pc for upgrades after.

@KawaiiVoldemort, @Schyken, @Allanitomwesh , tone down the rhetoric, please. People are allowed to have opinions without you stomping down on them.

all we were trying to figure out was the reasoning behind the opinion

not try to change anyones mind

I don't have an opinion re: this matter. And I'm not over thinking anything. Please don't tell me how I feel.

I didn't tell you how you felt. I'm making it clear that you're misinterpreting my intent.

?

all we were trying to figure out was the reasoning behind the opinion

This.

all we were trying to figure out was the reasoning behind the opinion

There are ways to ask for things.

There are ways to ask for things.

reading back, i dont think we were aggressive, the only argument was what brand loyalty is

Why however - on a budget amd currently delivers the best performance on sockets that will be upgraded for years to come, unlike intel that drops the socket every two years, forcing you to buy a fully new pc for upgrades after.

I can't imagine an average office buying new PCs just because.

Kinda reminds me of cyanide and happiness, this GIF.

reading back, i dont think we were aggressive, the only argument was what brand loyalty is

I beg to differ.

I beg to differ.

and?

+1

I can't imagine an average office buying new PCs just because.

Literally the opposite. Budget allocated to IT department gotta be spent

and?

You were outright rude, in some of your replies.

I can't imagine an average office buying new PCs just because.

Of course, as long as pcs continue to work average offices have little reason to upgrade. But if an office or single person had to upgrade because too many old machines failed or anything, they'd not need (or should) choose intel.

I can't imagine an average office buying new PCs just because.

Idk, I think every now and then it's kinda necessary. Plus, with newer tech, there can typically be incentives like discounts from OEMs or whatnot

There's typically a reason somewhere

There's typically a reason somewhere

And there's usually a huge reason not to: money.

?‍♂

You were outright rude, in some of your replies.

the messages went like this Kohane: Intel just works Me: And AMD doesnt? Whats the basis Me: Repeat the Question Me: Which AMD failed for you

explain the rudeness

the messages went like this Kohane: Intel just works Me: And AMD doesnt? Whats the basis Me: Repeat the Question Me: Which AMD failed for you

I read the messages. I don't need to explain what you said back to you.

Literally the opposite. Budget allocated to IT department gotta be spent

Well. it depends on countries and places. Most of the offices I've seen in my life had computers for as long as they work. Hell, I've seen pre-inkjet printers working in offices so....

And there's usually a huge reason not to: money.

True. Which is why the PCs at our local district are built for early Windows 7 and barely clinging to life. ?

True. Which is why the PCs at our local district are built for early Windows 7 and barely clinging to life. ?

Ah, I feel you. But I saw an even worse case: old PCs with Vista.... figure out...

Ah, I feel you. But I saw an even worse case: old PCs with Vista.... figure out...

Some still run xp!

Ah, I feel you. But I saw an even worse case: old PCs with Vista.... figure out...

Ah, that's a bundle of joy.

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Some still run xp!

The taskbar in XP made me angry. ?

Meanwhile office threw out perfectly fine 4770s for 8th gen puters

Meanwhile office threw out perfectly fine 4770s for 8th gen puters

Gotta be caffeinated

Some still run xp!

Like the ones in the hospital where I work at...

The taskbar in XP made me angry. ?

The start menu, right?

The start menu, right?

Yeah, that was a pain, too. :/

Meanwhile office threw out perfectly fine 4770s for 8th gen puters

Sell them to me!!!

Gotta be caffeinated

In the words of the IT manager "budget is there to be spent"

I used XP for the first time after I'd already used Win7

Idk, I think every now and then it's kinda necessary. Plus, with newer tech, there can typically be incentives like discounts from OEMs or whatnot

Every now and then is necessary, of course. But that doesn't mean that everywhere is the same. I never seen an office with modern computers. If their stuff is 5 years old and it works, it will remain there. OF course, if it's tech company is completely different

Sell them to me!!!

Already auctioned

In the words of the IT manager "budget is there to be spent"

This is true. Remarkably similar to our military ?

Meanwhile office threw out perfectly fine 4770s for 8th gen puters

Oh yeah, especially german bureaus do that - they usually have a hardware policy to rebuy every 2-5 years.

I used XP for the first time after I'd already used Win7

But, tbh, XP was an innovation in the windoze world at the time.

Thats why we germans have such a flourishing market for old lenovo thinkpads

But, tbh, XP was an innovation in the windoze world at the time.

Fancy gwafix

Oh yeah, especially german bureaus do that - they usually have a hardware policy to rebuy every 2-5 years.

What do they use? Windows? 8/10?

But, tbh, XP was an innovation in the windoze world at the time.

Yeah, the first Windows I used was 2000, and I guess all I miss was the stupid paper clip

What do they use? Windows? 8/10?

Most governments are still on 7

Yeah, the first Windows I used was 2000, and I guess all I miss was the stupid paper clip

Ikr? The only thing I loved about windoze...

What do they use? Windows? 8/10?

Mostly winshit except for some bright projects that use linux and the general incentive from the eu to favor OS solutions over closed crap in the future.

Some still run xp!

Yeah, imagine waiting in line for an old. And I mean old PC struggling to keep up with Vista. Every single thing needed literally hours.

Most governments are still on 7

Libre uprising wen? :P

Mostly winshit except for some bright projects that use linux and the general incentive from the eu to favor OS solutions over closed crap in the future.

Noice (to the last part)

Libre uprising wen? :P

Something something windows is spyware for Trump

Ah, that's a bundle of joy.

Tell me about it! It took me the whole afternoon to finish a process that should have taken 20 minutes.

Some still run xp!

Pretty sure that's every battleship and aircraft carrier in the US Navy ?

Chinese govt demanded its own custom made version of Windows 10

Chinese govt demanded its own custom made version of Windows 10

Ah, it's adorable how they do things like that...

Chinese govt demanded its own custom made version of Windows 10

Spyware + spyware = yay!!!

It just reminds me of being in preschool

Pretty sure that's every battleship and aircraft carrier in the US Navy ?

Shh, how else could hackers avoid WW3?