I wouldn't consider Gentoo a major distro, but yet, it's different to most other distro in that you have to compile most things and that would burn many modern laptops

There's also things like void, devuan, and alpine, which have no systemd, a significant change

There's also things like void, devuan, and alpine, which have no systemd, a significant change

THOSE ARE NO MAJOR DISTROS

THOSE ARE NO MAJOR DISTROS

What is your definition of major?

I step down from this sterile discussion

THOSE ARE NO MAJOR DISTROS

> alpine > not major I assume you're not using Docker, then ;)

Because alpine alone has more embedded deployment than fedora

you wing guys

you wing guys

No, you just made zero sense and had no hope

You can't call a distro "minor" when there's a philosophy behind it that brought it to existence and that philosophy has many many following it

No, you just made zero sense and had no hope

This turn into another 15 arguement that mint is bad.....

Because alpine alone has more embedded deployment than fedora

In that case alpine has no init system at all because thats not the idea behind docker

Mint nor viod is bad but the stupidity of the team not caring for security is...

You can't call a distro "minor" when there's a philosophy behind it that brought it to existence and that philosophy has many many following it

There are major desktop distros. Alpine is not one of them.

Alpine is made to be used without any init at all, and as small as possible

That it can be installed on desktop is just a side effect, however it does not see itself as desktop distro either and especially not major there.

I personally love the mint update plugin so I installed on lite. Been wondering how it on fedora??

I personally love the mint update plugin so I installed on lite. Been wondering how it on fedora??

The mint updater is retarded. Withholds security updates from users by default.

here, in the UK, some IT jobs advertises : Linux knowledge is an advantage (preferred : RHEL, CentOS, ubuntu).... so, if you are a Fedora "user", and your other distro is debian/kali, then what to do? :D

I personally love the mint update plugin so I installed on lite. Been wondering how it on fedora??

Fedora autonotifies you of any updates and lists them in the gnome store of you desire or offers a checkbox to install on shutdown.

The mint updater is retarded. Withholds security updates from users by default.

I can see that but I gives me the full dang details I like reading what it updating.

here, in the UK, some IT jobs advertises : Linux knowledge is an advantage (preferred : RHEL, CentOS, ubuntu).... so, if you are a Fedora "user", and your other distro is debian/kali, then what to do? :D

Ditch kali, install centod server in a vm, get experience. Its super close to fedora.

I can see that but I gives me the full dang details I like reading what it updating.

yumex-dnf did that but sadly its retired.

But gnome software still shows you all changed packages

rh website is soo cool!

And you can always read changelogs if you desire.

https://www.redhat.com/en

yumex-dnf did that but sadly its retired.

So hence the min update for Xfce. Gnome to bloated..

Ditch kali, install centod server in a vm, get experience. Its super close to fedora.

I know it ? I have a virtual machine setted in my laptop

So hence the min update for Xfce. Gnome to bloated..

Not at all

You can read changelogs but they mostly are "updated upstream"

Not at all

My machine got very boged down.... I can't render and have the plugjns installed...

for upding I use : # dnf update —best —allowerasing sometimes : # dnf update —best —allowerasing —refresh

I don't have a reason for gui :D maybe just for searching....

'dnf search' is very helpful, don't even need a gui

The gnome shell is ok for most. But I wish KDE go back to 4.0....... plasma sucks...... If I hear about templeos from y'all... Though..mm yes I know the joke but we should focus on on linux distro but give more on the DEs.....

monitoring,HTOP-suck, MArk russinovich

Ah, ok, now it sounds familiar. Thanks.

The gnome shell is ok for most. But I wish KDE go back to 4.0....... plasma sucks...... If I hear about templeos from y'all... Though..mm yes I know the joke but we should focus on on linux distro but give more on the DEs.....

KDE 4 had Plasma

And it was slow and buggy as hell.

I almost laughing at this but if we don't get our stuff together .... Microsoft may buy Linux..

'dnf search' is very helpful, don't even need a gui

I wrote "maybe" previously ?

micro$oft hate$ Linux

Yeah I see

The gnome shell is ok for most. But I wish KDE go back to 4.0....... plasma sucks...... If I hear about templeos from y'all... Though..mm yes I know the joke but we should focus on on linux distro but give more on the DEs.....

Me too, KDE 4 was great, but Plasma 5 will never reach KDE 4 in feature parity, not at least before GNOME 3 does

I don't remember it being laggy @Kohane

I personally love the mint update plugin so I installed on lite. Been wondering how it on fedora??

Dnfdragora has a plug-in that shows updates on your desktop. You can also use the native addon/plasmoid/desklet/whatever from your desktop of choice.

micro$oft hate$ Linux

That if

Me too, KDE 4 was great, but Plasma 5 will never reach KDE 4 in feature parity, not at least before GNOME 3 does

Yeah, KDE 5 lacks a few features but it’s far more stable, and still very pretty and configurable.

Yeah, KDE 5 lacks a few features but it’s far more stable, and still very pretty and configurable.

IMHO the final KDE 4 was at least as stable as current Plasma

I don't remember if some can buy an non profit.. oh wait they can...

I don't remember it being laggy @Kohane

What kind of machine you had?

What kind of machine you had?

8 core amd.

KDE 4 was heavy, not laggy. Now it's way less heavy but way less functional

IMHO the final KDE 4 was at least as stable as current Plasma

Except for Akonadi and all the indexing stuff.

Akonadi is equally faulty nonw

now

8 core amd.

Yeah, well, that’s unfair. With that machine everything is light.

Akonadi is equally faulty nonw

Yeah, and I avoid it like pest

Yeah, well, that’s unfair. With that machine everything is light.

I went thst route for an reason.

Ah, ok, now it sounds familiar. Thanks.

and?

KDE 4 was heavy, not laggy. Now it's way less heavy but way less functional

I didn’t say laggy, I said slow. So yeah, KDE 4 was heavier.

and?

Amd

I went thst route for an reason.

Happy you. Not everyone can afford an awesome machine. On my very average laptops KDE 4 was very slow and heavy. KDE 5 works way better. It does lack some features but I still prefer it because it’s more usable and the features that are absent aren’t basic for me.

searching emails in krunner was so great...

so basic in my workflow

KDE 4 was a mess. However, it's amount of features was unparalleled. I doubt any DE, even Plasma 5 will be able to achieve that level. They are trying but you can't throw a decade of progress without the replacement lacking in some way. Qt 5 was incompatible with the previous version. KDE had to remake Plasma because of that .

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for upding I use : # dnf update —best —allowerasing sometimes : # dnf update —best —allowerasing —refresh

You dont, you use --best :P (tg shortens -- to — )

KDE 4 was a mess. However, it's amount of features was unparalleled. I doubt any DE, even Plasma 5 will be able to achieve that level. They are trying but you can't throw a decade of progress without the replacement lacking in some way. Qt 5 was incompatible with the previous version. KDE had to remake Plasma because of that .

This exposes the biggest weakness of kde: they don't control the toolkit they use, despite they contribute a lot to it.

is the sudo dnf update - - refresh the same as sudo clean all && sudo dnf update?

is the sudo dnf update - - refresh the same as sudo clean all && sudo dnf update?

No I tried it today and it seems --refresh checks if cache is outdated while dnf clean just removes all cache without checking

So my "sudo dnf clean all && sudo dnf update - - best - - refresh - - allowerasing" which I used for a year now was rubbish :D

I think you should read man before doing something :)

It was written in the fedora-install-script-bible by Tobias :D

Idk I just use "dnf update" and I'm happy with it

Don't even know about the difference between update and upgrade in dnf

I think I should read dnf manual today :P

Don't even know about the difference between update and upgrade in dnf

update is a depreciated alias to upgrade

which means they do the same thing but update might be dropped i think

I dont think it will be dropped, it will break compatibility with older versions But good to know, thanks

It was written in the fedora-install-script-bible by Tobias :D

Thats for initial setup.

Initial setup is supposed to clean out any maybe left ther half-finished loading garbage or faulty files.

Then pulls them clean.

For regular updates you leave out the dnf clean all.

Ok, good to know :D

I'll add a new one to the list. This is a good one. Good job @x3mboy

Thanks. Also, all feedback is well received

You dont, you use --best :P (tg shortens -- to — )

autoformat error :D

Idk I just use "dnf update" and I'm happy with it

and I have used the same, but there were few packages only with 32-bit architecture, and when the 64-bit has been released, then it coused a problem on update.... so I changed my update "culture"

KDE 4 was a mess. However, it's amount of features was unparalleled. I doubt any DE, even Plasma 5 will be able to achieve that level. They are trying but you can't throw a decade of progress without the replacement lacking in some way. Qt 5 was incompatible with the previous version. KDE had to remake Plasma because of that .

TBH, I only miss two features: Splashscreen had themes you could download from anywhere and install KDM had tons of themes available to install I like SDDM but it's so poor in themes, nobody seem to write/design any for it. And the Splashcreen now forces you to use only the default. There is no add or install button now.

TBH, I only miss two features: Splashscreen had themes you could download from anywhere and install KDM had tons of themes available to install I like SDDM but it's so poor in themes, nobody seem to write/design any for it. And the Splashcreen now forces you to use only the default. There is no add or install button now.

writing sddm themes is pretty easy though

Yes? I wouldn't mind to learn if it's easy. I'm already learning and doing other stuff, but I'm always open to contribute.

totally

QML is really easy to grasp

its syntax is very similar to CSS and it's a declarative language, principially close to HTML

Oh, nice, I'm already learning those

and there's JS, too, of course

just hit me up with a PM if you need help or some pointers to how to start with it

Yes, I need some pointers.

Do I need to install anything extra...?