If I would do it on my laptop I assume it will take about 1 hour trying to restore the main wallpaper lol

Oh just remember it doesn't work on every DE because some of them draw their own window leaving X root window at the bottom. And my script outputs to X11 root window..

Oh just remember it doesn't work on every DE because some of them draw their own window leaving X root window at the bottom. And my script outputs to X11 root window..

Oh

Yes

Then no. ?

Hello and welcome ?

What Desktop do you think that it's better for newbies and small/micro entrepeneurs?(I'm writting a book for them) Gnome – 17 ??????? 59% Cinnamon – 7 ??? 24% Plasma – 3 ? 10% Mate – 1 ▫️ 3% XFCE – 1 ▫️ 3% Unity ▫️ 0% LXDE ▫️ 0% Deepin ▫️ 0% ? 29 people voted so far. Poll closed.

Hello and welcome ?

Thanks!

I'm writting a manual for newbies and entrepeneurs, please I need tour help

What Desktop do you think that it's better for newbies and small/micro entrepeneurs?(I'm writting a book for them) Gnome – 17 ??????? 59% Cinnamon – 7 ??? 24% Plasma – 3 ? 10% Mate – 1 ▫️ 3% XFCE – 1 ▫️ 3% Unity ▫️ 0% LXDE ▫️ 0% Deepin ▫️ 0% ? 29 people voted so far. Poll closed.

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I remember that

I'm letting it slip this time

I'm letting it slip this time

Thanks

Gnome2?

Gnome2?

3, if you want Gnome 2 vote for Mate?

Plasma ftw

I don't even know is it possible to develop something simpler than gnome 3

Yeah, but it's for newbies and entrepeneurs, that is people that is used to Windows.

Gnome 3 can be awesome but it's not the best for a newbie used to Windows. Same for KDE5/Plasma and Mate.

Mate uses a MacOS-like layout with different menus on left top and two bars (one of them rather looking like a dock)

I don't even know is it possible to develop something simpler than gnome 3

Simple? GNOME is really complicated for beginners lol

And the defaults are terrible IMO

Why is the titlebar 3x thicker than the topbar, I'll never understand that

And with the majority of people having low res screens, that becomes a huge lost screen space

I hate Cinnamon, but for newbies, Gnome is confusing and KDE is too complex. If you want something modern and functional, Cinnamon is the only choice.

Cinnamon is the best for people coming from windows, Deepin in the easiest for a true noob using a computer for the first time

It's great! Just need to remove some gnome and ansible modules + dnf remove PackageKit-command-not-found and I'll be good to go too :P

Customize however you want :P

Well I don't really know cause I'm Linux user now and I can't think from perspective of Windows user I just think that it is better to use something simple at first

I hate Cinnamon, but for newbies, Gnome is confusing and KDE is too complex. If you want something modern and functional, Cinnamon is the only choice.

And this is why people hate Linux... Don't pass judgement! I'm not a newbie and I hate gnome 3 with every fiber of my body, I also dislike kde for its overly complicated and heavy interface. I tried cinnamon and liked it. Before that, I used mate, which I also liked, coming from gnome 2 (for me the best DE), these just make sense.

And this is why people hate Linux... Don't pass judgement! I'm not a newbie and I hate gnome 3 with every fiber of my body, I also dislike kde for its overly complicated and heavy interface. I tried cinnamon and liked it. Before that, I used mate, which I also liked, coming from gnome 2 (for me the best DE), these just make sense.

Same, but with XFCE ?

Can I use my yubikey burned by fedora-burn-yubikey in YubiCloud?

iirc it needs one slot, so if you use the first one, no

by "the first one" I refer to the first yubikey slot

Can I use my yubikey burned by fedora-burn-yubikey in YubiCloud?

It will destroy the yubi configuration of your yubikey.

And thus you will loose your Official Slot1 Yubi token, and if you ever re-issue yubicloud signons they explicitely reserve the right to remove your non-official keys at any time.

Ontop of that you shouldnt use yubikeys unless you have two you can add and never ever use them for gpg as their now propreitary library has wide-open doors that it can be attacked trough.

What's a nice open hardware alternative?

What's a nice open hardware alternative?

https://www.floss-shop.de/en/security-privacy/smartcards/13/openpgp-smart-card-v3.3

@Wolfshappen check pm, please...

I've seen some new smartcard that Linux is giving to all of the kernel devs. Still think smart cards are a better option

Ooh, noice!!!

Although, @Wolfshappen do you have a hardware pin entry device?

Although, @Wolfshappen do you have a hardware pin entry device?

I played with some yubikeys and co, but the most i do today is TOTP with keepassxc

Oh, nice!!! @Wolfshappen, Thoughts?

Does somebody here will go to the RHSummit this year?

@fdvalero I know there are people in this group who will go, but they may not check the group often.

Nice podcast list... But why post it here? Did someone ask for it?

Woah, didnt mean to. No clue how it got here!!

How I can strip debug symbols from binaries compiled by cmake+make from rpm package or prevent their inclusion?

The amount of marketing BS thrown together is downright amazing

Some company wanted to triple their value again?

Yeah. I saw the same guy post this in many groups. Plus, can't they not use buzzwords like AI and Blockchain in every goddamn sentence.

Yeah. I saw the same guy post this in many groups. Plus, can't they not use buzzwords like AI and Blockchain in every goddamn sentence.

They are leveraging them doncha know

Yeah. I saw the same guy post this in many groups. Plus, can't they not use buzzwords like AI and Blockchain in every goddamn sentence.

Think it's spam?

Think it's spam?

Yes, it is. Ban him.

Hammer Time

Banhammer!

Mjolnir To Me!

Think it's spam?

He is posting different links about the same company everywhere. So I think yes.

Well I don't really know cause I'm Linux user now and I can't think from perspective of Windows user I just think that it is better to use something simple at first

Well, I seldom use Windows and my first computer was Linux. But if you look at the general design, the one that is closer to Windows is Cinnamon.

I just deleted the message and reported spam.

Is there any tools for creating rpm packages easily?

Yeah. I saw the same guy post this in many groups. Plus, can't they not use buzzwords like AI and Blockchain in every goddamn sentence.

No, they can't. People doing this isn't smart, they're just doing what they have been taught to do. Marketing schools tell you this is the way to get attention and new customers.

Is there any tools for creating rpm packages easily?

Do you mean packaging from sources?

Do you mean packaging from sources?

Yes

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I have no idea. I still want to be a packager but couldn't find someone to explain the process in plain English. And the wikis are messy.

Maybe builder?

Gnome Builder, I mean.

I'll give it a try

It will destroy the yubi configuration of your yubikey.

LOL The first thing I read was " I will destroy the yubi configuration of your yubikey". I had to read twice to get it right. ?

Can I complain that the packager wiki is long and bloated? And is it possible for me to simply "open a pull request" to an existing package of an old version (e.g iptux) to update it, without becoming the co-maintainer?

Can I complain that the packager wiki is long and bloated? And is it possible for me to simply "open a pull request" to an existing package of an old version (e.g iptux) to update it, without becoming the co-maintainer?

There is a packager group in telegram, check out the pinned message

I have no idea. I still want to be a packager but couldn't find someone to explain the process in plain English. And the wikis are messy.

Look at xvitalys telegram package specs, they explain it really well.

Plus to build software you should be familiar with development and the respective tools the program you want to package uses.

Gnome builder only works well for meson-based projects ect.

Look at xvitalys telegram package specs, they explain it really well.

Oh, I will look into it then.

Thanks @Kohane @Wolfshappen , I will check them

and @rtyu1120

Thanks @Kohane @Wolfshappen , I will check them

https://github.com/xvitaly/tgbuild

Plus to build software you should be familiar with development and the respective tools the program you want to package uses.

Yes, but as I tried something and couldn't understand a word from the wiki... and didn't get much help from others... I just got discouraged.

https://github.com/xvitaly/tgbuild

Thanks a lot

Yes, but as I tried something and couldn't understand a word from the wiki... and didn't get much help from others... I just got discouraged.

Kind of the sense behind this - if you want to build for example telegram you'll have to work trough how a qt program works (as in how it uses qt), how to apply patches to code and what they mean, how to make an application, what are the paths to where it should build and output, what buildflags to set, how to compile and crosscompile, what the hell actually happens when you do so and and and.

Its a process fueled by being already a developer or experienced in IT and its nothing you can do out of the blue without first learning a wide array of skills and knowledge. You cant just take a few files and zip them after all, this can be a really complicated process.

And ontop of that even an experienced dev may fail when an application refuses to build because of shortcomings of the build system and co.

I'm installing Pidora 18 on my Pi1B ?

Damn you, you made me install fedo 27 on my pi 3 and realize again just how slow the pis are xD

But its pretty fun to play with nonetheless

Damn you, you made me install fedo 27 on my pi 3 and realize again just how slow the pis are xD

HAHAHA

Even running a barebone php benchmark, 6 seconds versus the 0.3 on my super-old x230 xD

Why do some use these for nextcloud again?

Why do some use these for nextcloud again?

Cheap

GnuBee is very interesting to me as a NAS

GnuBee is very interesting to me as a NAS

Until six months ago a hp microserver with 4, sled-based drives, 4g of ram and a cpu fast enough for two gigabit r/w on mdadm raid with lvm and xfs on top was available for 185€ everywhere.

Now they are 300+ bucks with gen10. And the gnubees build quality is laughing stock over full metal construction with proper maintainability, replacement availability and future upgradeability.

but electric consumption in a Raspberry Pi is much lower than in any other machine, no? For a full time on machine this is meaningful

but electric consumption in a Raspberry Pi is much lower than in any other machine, no? For a full time on machine this is meaningful

My fully-equipped NAS takes 30W under heavy and 20-25W under zero load.

My pi takes 10 under max load with attached drive.