Never heard of it

Canonical's init system. Used twice in Ubuntu releases

Between initd and systemd

Canonical code rarely leaves canonical projects

There was that fancy new init

S6 or something like that. Lemmi hit the Google

It's worse in compare with systemd

It's another canonical hellhole

Dead canonical hellhole.

Rip

It's worse in compare with systemd

It's not like systemd, it's more like runit

 At worst, it's just another take on daemontools with a reliable base libraryand a few nifty features.

There you go, straight from the horse's mouth

para quem vive en españa https://tmt.knect365.com/risc-v-workshop-barcelona/agenda/2

para quem vive en españa https://tmt.knect365.com/risc-v-workshop-barcelona/agenda/2

English, please.

English, please.

one day risc-v workshop (is in english)

Do you guys think google will commit to fuchsia?

fuchsia is developed by google

Do you guys think google will commit to fuchsia?

I hope so

I'd love to see it get far

Do you guys think google will commit to fuchsia?

I guess yes. They wouldn't be working for almost a year (I guess) now if they wanted to abandon it..

I guess yes. They wouldn't be working for almost a year (I guess) now if they wanted to abandon it..

2 years

But it wouldn't be the first time they worked on a project for quite a while before abandoning it

I'd love to see it get far

It wouldn't be good for Linux if it replaces android

It wouldn't be good for Linux if it replaces android

Maybe not, but if it's better, I'm all in.

2 years

Oh wow! It's been two years already?

The biggest advantage of Fuchsia is it's microkernel architecture, something Thompson and Ritchie saw in the early 80s as being the better architecture. Linux and it's monolithic architecture makes it less competitive against a well-written microkernel and, of the few people capable of writing a good microkernel, Google probably has half of them

In fact, that's what Plan 9 was. It was an experiment into converting the standard Unix userspace into a distributed microkernel based operating system

Friendly reminder that Hurd is indeed, a microkernel before it was cool

a reminder that hurd failed and that linux is going to be a microkernel soon

tanenbaum will be vindicated

Friendly reminder that Hurd is indeed, a microkernel before it was cool

I think the point was that it needed to be a good one.

tanenbaum will be vindicated

Yes! Tanenbaum FTW

Office 365 is available through a web browser AFAIK

Yes. It is. But I wouldn't pay for it. I'm just happy with the free version ?

I hope we are not that bad here. ?

We are a rather nice bunch, me think...

hello everyone any one using Akira ??

I didn't know about it, but I'm taking a look now. Thanks for the link!

Don't mind me asking, my internet is just too slow for doing anything but sending messages.. What is the difference between a microkernel and a macrokernel?

nope. never. i thought it might have had something to do with my favourite anime though. now I'm disappointed

Maybe the author/authors are fans of Akira? There's a character named Akira in another anime but I can't recall which one.

What DM does everyone here use?

LightDM

Amazing

I didn't know about it, but I'm taking a look now. Thanks for the link!

welcome

Don't mind me asking, my internet is just too slow for doing anything but sending messages.. What is the difference between a microkernel and a macrokernel?

"Micro kernel is a kernel which runs services those are minimal for operating system performance. In this kernel all other operations are performed by processor. Macro Kernel is a combination of micro and monolithic kernel. In monolithic kernel all operating system code is in single executable image."

I didn't know about it, but I'm taking a look now. Thanks for the link!

its not ready yet

I think the point was that it needed to be a good one.

>implying

A micro kernel is essentially like a modular kernel

Plan 9 was one of, if not the first, microkernel based OSes

>implying

That it's a bad one ?

Plan 9's forks are pretty good, so I'd say that the Bell Labs guys wrote the first properly decent microkernel

"Micro kernel is a kernel which runs services those are minimal for operating system performance. In this kernel all other operations are performed by processor. Macro Kernel is a combination of micro and monolithic kernel. In monolithic kernel all operating system code is in single executable image."

Oh, so micro kernel is basically modular kernel?

That it's a bad one ?

Which is false

Hurd is one of the few good things GNU has done

Which is false

Bless

It's just that it was really hard to write and Stallman was a bro and convinced Linus to open his already "finished" kernel

I'm looking for an alternative to gdm because I don't like how hard it is to customize it

LightDM is quite customisable. SSDM too, but not as much as KDM used to be. Also it lacks of themes.

Oh, so micro kernel is basically modular kernel?

Yup

When it comes to coreutils, you have plan9port which is lighter, BSD's which is faster and {toy,busy}box which is a hybrid. Basically, no matter which one you choose, they are better than GNU

It's just that it was really hard to write and Stallman was a bro and convinced Linus to open his already "finished" kernel

What the... You have all your cards mixed.

Hurd is one of the few good things GNU has done

Bless your heart...

its not ready yet

Oh, okay, I'll keep it in mind.

OpenSolaris came out with one of the best C compilers, even if it wasn't the most featureful

What the... You have all your cards mixed.

Where?

LightDM is quite customisable. SSDM too, but not as much as KDM used to be. Also it lacks of themes.

Yeah I just switched to it

Hurd is one of the few good things GNU has done

You should become a comedian

Probably sddm, if you have kde?

You can use it without KDE, same for LightDM, you can use it with any desktop.

You should become a comedian

It's abandoned right now but it was revolutionary and futuristic back in the day

Where?

It's a saying.

ERROR: S client not available

It's abandoned right now but it was revolutionary and futuristic back in the day

No support for anything but x86, never planned to be expandable, obsolete when it came out...

So... one of the best things GNU did is an abandoned project...? well, that says a lot about GNU...

So... one of the best things GNU did is an abandoned project...? well, that says a lot about GNU...

There's reasons

Never got any real developer attention, lead by GNUtishist stallman, destined to be the laughing stock of kernels forever...

There's reasons

It's kinda like snap. It's been buried by flatpak but it's still brill

There's reasons

Wait, I need a Guinness to read this... Okay, which are the reasons? * opens the bottle *

It's kinda like snap. It's been buried by flatpak but it's still brill

Got >4gb ram (now 8, but come on this is the cloud world. Every provider needs something that can handle 256gb ram at minimum)? Got a cpu with >4 cores that you want to use for virtualisation? Have any high-cycle demanding applications you need to manage in parallel? Need a proper network stack for routers and general hardware that can do things like QoS?

Nope, forget all that on hurd.

OpenSolaris came out with one of the best C compilers, even if it wasn't the most featureful

Which one? I don't remember...

cc

Wait, I need a Guinness to read this... Okay, which are the reasons? * opens the bottle *

Kernels are hard when ur also writing Emacs Bro Linus had already written one anyway Kernels are even harder if noone wants to help coz ur kinda autistic

It's canonical maintained, otherwise kewl...

Are you sure? Well, I don't care much, it's not like there are too many options to choose from.

Kernels are hard when ur also writing Emacs Bro Linus had already written one anyway Kernels are even harder if noone wants to help coz ur kinda autistic

Hurd could've gotten a lot of attention as simple and super secure alternative to linux thanks to being a microkernel.

Kernels are hard when ur also writing Emacs Bro Linus had already written one anyway Kernels are even harder if noone wants to help coz ur kinda autistic

Aha, go ahead

Big providers would've loved it for providing secure services running on an awesome virtualisation stack

But an OS stuck with 4 GB of max RAM?

Lol, never.

Aha, go ahead

* nods while sipping her Guinness *

Hurd could be THE cloud powering system today.

But stallman and hurd are still stuck on a platform dying quick.

Hurd could be THE cloud powering system today.

There are too many conditionals there...

@Kohane

Since you're already online :P

But stallman and hurd are still stuck on a platform dying quick.

Luckily

@Kohane

What? Is it spam?

Luckily

Lol

Obviously, isnt it?

I can't read it, but it looks like it

unsolicited joinlink and fully in russian.