Funny enough, my music is still playing, and I can hear my IRC client pinging when I type in this group

I have that when its choking on really really heavy I/O usually.

Does the whole system freeze or just the input methods?

I have my mouse, but nothing else. The GUI is frozen… but nothing more than mouse movement

You didnt use gnome/kde, right?

No, I'm on i3wm.

No, I'm on i3wm.

Doesnt it have a statusbar you can fill with scripts?

put free -m | awk something in :P

I have that when its choking on really really heavy I/O usually.

Huh. I wonder if it is choking on I/O. I hadn't considered.

and the current I/O levels

put free -m | awk something in :P

Yeah, need to do something simple lile that

Oh, it did just crash and throw me to GDM

And of course, journalctl -xe -b -1 shows you the last log elements from the last boot.

Let's see if I can debug

Oh, it did just crash and throw me to GDM

Sounds like ram or gpu driver. Are you using the binary blobs?

Sounds like ram or gpu driver. Are you using the binary blobs?

I use Negativo17's Nvidia drivers

So the blobs

check journalctl for events around the hang time.

Apr 06 08:46:59 justin-w-florys-desktop abrt-notification[19437]: Display server /usr/libexec/Xorg crash in OsLookupColor() -- Subject: ABRT has detected crash of display server -- Defined-By: ABRT -- Support: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ -- Documentation: man:abrt(1) -- -- Segmentation fault at address 0x0 -- -- Use the abrt command-line tool for further analysis or to report -- the problem to the appropriate support site. Hmmm.

kernel: nouveau 0000:02:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nve4_fuc084 failed with error -2 kernel: nouveau 0000:02:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nve4_fuc084d failed with error -2 kernel: nouveau 0000:02:00.0: msvld: unable to load firmware data kernel: nouveau 0000:02:00.0: msvld: init failed, -19 Ohhh. Nouveau?!?

I might have a bigger problem, ugh.

Need to see if Nouveau somehow made its way on my system again

This would explain a lot

I should have checked journalctl first

Need to see if Nouveau somehow made its way on my system again

the negativo package should disabel it for you however.

So you can also switch anytime.

the negativo package should disabel it for you however.

Also what I thought…

It's been three years since I really played with GFX drivers. Going to have to brush up again on how to disable Nouveau and ensure it is disabled

Anyone have a good guide for that?

<jwf> Hahah, I am almost angry at myself for this, I feel like I should have RTFM'd with journalctl a long time ago

<jwf> Hahah, I am almost angry at myself for this, I feel like I should have RTFM'd with journalctl a long time ago

jwf: dont worry, thats why i tell everyone with bugs to first give journalctl a try :P

<jwf> Yeah. :P

what's "RTFM"?

read the f* manual :)

oh

Urban Dictionary is your friend ;) https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RTFM

oops, I didn't want to show the whole word.

guys

where is the ~/rpmbuilds

i cant find it

where is the ~/rpmbuilds

It doesnt exist by default, why?

~/ = your home folder. aka /home/username/

hmmm

how can i get it

If you can't find it then you didn't create it

is there any package?

how can i get it

You.... wait what do you want to do.

is there any package?

You create the directory.

well i'm following this guide

https://rpm-packaging-guide.github.io/#hello-world

https://rpm-packaging-guide.github.io/#pello *

just create the directory yourself.

alright

mkdir ~/rpmbuild

.-.

If its complaining then because it wants to write there and isnt allowed to because it doesnt exist yet.

Better than mkdir, use rpmdev-setuptree command

It will create all rpmbuild tree dir structure for your rpm builds

ooooohhh

<jwf> @iam_nick: RTFM is a pretty rude phrase, I think, but since I am talking to myself, I guess it's okay. :P

Better than mkdir, use rpmdev-setuptree command

thank for it

thanks*

My desktop froze again while I am running a meeting ? I have to fix this today

My desktop froze again while I am running a meeting ? I have to fix this today

If you want an emergency fix, right now, remove the graphic card and try to sort out the issues later. I know this is a shit solution and someone will have a much better one but try out this temporary fix if all else fails.

Or this. https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/116146/fedora-27-freezing-with-nvidia-proprietary-drivers/

Or using only nouveau ?

Or using only nouveau ?

Now that you say this, it feels much more obvious than taking out your nvidea graphic card.

nano updated their homepage https://nano-editor.org

ERROR: S client not available

looks classy now

jesus

lol yeah ?

well, at least it's responsive!

except for the page with screenshots, everything looks OK on a ?

well, at least it's responsive!

Doesnt respond to its listed editor codes though sadly.

meh... nothing's perfect

whoah, nano 2.x looks pretty nice on a screenshot

yup

so in the 2.x era of nano, you can use the mouse, since I see a mouse in there

➜ ~ nano --version GNU nano, version 2.9.5 ➜ ~ git --version git version 2.17.0 ?

nano updated their homepage https://nano-editor.org

Woot woot!

Oh he still is.

Yes, he’s somewhere around but silent.

Wait, what? What was I doing again?

Apparently you spammed us with some sort of group. I don’t have any recollection of these events though.

Jesus i've made my first patch

Yay! Yes!

My desktop is testing my patience each and every day

Stable or beta? Workstation or something else? I remember some bugs related to Gnome, but I don’t know if they were fix already.

No, I'm on i3wm.

Oh, this... Sorry, I don’t know, I have no experience with i3wm

You might be in i3 but I guess you're using GNOME as base

Apparently you spammed us with some sort of group. I don’t have any recollection of these events though.

Preaching =/ spamming. Also, not here. Somewhere else on telegram.

Apparently you spammed us with some sort of group. I don’t have any recollection of these events though.

That's coz I didn't do it here... Nor did I do it in all the groups we have in common...

If you want an emergency fix, right now, remove the graphic card and try to sort out the issues later. I know this is a shit solution and someone will have a much better one but try out this temporary fix if all else fails.

@IceWreck It's not an option for me, though. My AMD CPU does not have integrated graphics. ☹️

Or using only nouveau ?

@Wolfshappen To be fair, I haven't tried Nouveau since I built this desktop. When I used it before, my screen resolution was poor and I had magenta lines tearing on my screen. But this was in Fedora 21 days??

Actually, probably Fedora 20, since 21 took a full year

You might be in i3 but I guess you're using GNOME as base

@AnXh3L0 Yeah, I still have GNOME Shell / GDM installed and for the login screen, but I log into the i3wm session

I haven't figured out how to totally isolate myself from GNOME yet

@Wolfshappen To be fair, I haven't tried Nouveau since I built this desktop. When I used it before, my screen resolution was poor and I had magenta lines tearing on my screen. But this was in Fedora 21 days??

Yeah, that likely should be retried :P

Is there an article written about fedora modular server?

Yeah, that likely should be retried :P

@Wolfshappen Interesting. I have heard it has come a long way, but I am always a little skeptical. But if you have had good, recent experiences with it, I might give it a go again.

Is there an article written about fedora modular server?

If you want to read more, I would start with these two things: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/modularity-dead-long-live-modularity/