@fedora
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:32:42
10:32:42
if you use your phone less, you can go with iPhones
but I value more the freedom/tinkering/numerous choices
Kohane06.04.2018
10:33:13
10:33:13
if you're a power user, you go for Android
If you're a power user, or you can't afford the new Apple stuff. That is stupidly expensive even for Apple standards.
Daniel06.04.2018
10:33:15
10:33:15
i haven't rooted the phone (yet)
When you do, try it. I use it and firefox works faster than with loading ublock
GoogleAnxhelo06.04.2018
10:33:15
10:33:15
that's why I can't use an iPhone, even if their hardware were the best
Michał06.04.2018
10:34:01
10:34:01
When you do, try it. I use it and firefox works faster than with loading ublock
looks really nice from what I looked at it... I will have to root the phone sometime, but I always have so many other things to doAnxhelo06.04.2018
10:34:07
10:34:07
If you're a power user, or you can't afford the new Apple stuff. That is stupidly expensive even for Apple standards.
well you can have enough money to get Apple stuff and be a power user, you still have optionsDaniel06.04.2018
10:34:27
10:34:27
For me Firefox Quantum was still not fast enough with ublock loaded compared to Chrome... Until adaway
Daniel Andrei06.04.2018
10:34:44
10:34:44
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:35:18
10:35:18
well you can have enough money to get Apple stuff and be a power user, you still have options
that's the beauty of competitivenessit drives things forward
Daniel Andrei06.04.2018
10:35:54
10:35:54
imagine a world without competivity
Саи Пранеетх Редды06.04.2018
10:35:56
10:35:56
Ah, I see the infamous Apple vs Android war going on.. Wew
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:36:09
10:36:09
not really a war haha
Daniel Andrei06.04.2018
10:36:13
10:36:13
we'll be living a Bundy Family serial lol
GoogleDaniel06.04.2018
10:36:30
10:36:30
??????
Daniel Andrei06.04.2018
10:36:33
10:36:33
selling shoes all our lives
Kohane06.04.2018
10:36:46
10:36:46
well you can have enough money to get Apple stuff and be a power user, you still have options
Yes, that's true. I for myself have this iPhone for one reason: it's cheap.
Now I got to use it I realised that I love it. But I wouldn't pay 1000£ for a new one. I prefer buying a laptop.Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:37:14
10:37:14
I wouldn't even spend more than 300$ on a phone lol
and that is still too much
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:38:07
10:38:07
I'd rather save up (until the era of cryptominers ends) to build my custom PC
Daniel Andrei06.04.2018
10:38:42
10:38:42
Kohane06.04.2018
10:38:51
10:38:51
Apple devices are not though for people that think the software part is theirs. There are phones for people that want the phone to adapt to them (some Androids) and phones for people that want to adapt themselves to the phone (iPhone). There are people that adapt to the phone, even if they dont like how it works, only for the "look how cool I am / see how much I spent on my phone even if I have to eat potatoes with potatoes the rest of the year" factor
All the phones I had, and they were Android and other randome stuff, were very limited in options. I never been in control of the said device. I don't see much of a diference between them except the hardware on Apple's side is far better.Daniel06.04.2018
10:39:19
10:39:19
I have now (it was a gift) a Wileyfox Swift from about 2 years, valued at the time in 150€... With CyanogenOS, the best price to overall quality match I've had
Kohane06.04.2018
10:39:37
10:39:37
Саи Пранеетх Редды06.04.2018
10:40:18
10:40:18
Nowadays, mid range devices are just as powerful as flagships in day to day life if you're not a power user imo
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:40:29
10:40:29
they're just goddamn handheld devices
that are unfortunately (?) becoming the main tool of use for everything nowadays
AndreaKohane06.04.2018
10:42:12
10:42:12
Eh, apple is for people who have time and who dont mind the walled garden.
I dont want to wait arbitrary extra seconds for every action because damn that sweet animation.
I don't wait any extra seconds. Actually this 1GB RAM iPhone is faster than the Android equivalents I had. So no. That doesn't apply.Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:43:47
10:43:47
it's not the hardware that makes it faster
GoogleAnxhelo06.04.2018
10:43:53
10:43:53
it's the way the system is built like
Kohane06.04.2018
10:43:58
10:43:58
I do admit I don't care about the walled garden because a phone for me is a totally disposable object. So as far as it's working good, I'm happy.
Yes, I know
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:44:11
10:44:11
iOS is so restrictive that you can't run any app in the bg
Kohane06.04.2018
10:44:15
10:44:15
I'm just pointing that there are no "extra seconds"
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:44:51
10:44:51
I do admit I don't care about the walled garden because a phone for me is a totally disposable object. So as far as it's working good, I'm happy.
that's all that matters, that the user is satisfiedKohane06.04.2018
10:44:51
10:44:51
Why would I want to do that?
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:45:00
10:45:00
depends on your usecase
Kohane06.04.2018
10:45:12
10:45:12
Ah... finally someone understood...
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:45:13
10:45:13
I for one need to have apps running in the bg for various reasons
Kohane06.04.2018
10:45:15
10:45:15
Thanks!
Kohane06.04.2018
10:45:39
10:45:39
I for one need to have apps running in the bg for various reasons
Yes, of course, every usecase it's differentHey Kirill welcome!
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:46:17
10:46:17
I don't use Google Services so I have less apps to worry about and try to protect my privacy, so I have tinkered everything I could
almost everything is FOSS
Kohane06.04.2018
10:47:36
10:47:36
I only use two apps: Telegram & Messenger.
And ofc calls & SMS, but I seldom receive any of those
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:48:10
10:48:10
SMS are long dead in Europe
Kohane06.04.2018
10:48:20
10:48:20
I just got called and I was like...
GoogleKohane06.04.2018
10:49:13
10:49:13
Never been in the US so I can't tell
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:49:25
10:49:25
US is the land of iOS and iMessage
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:49:39
10:49:39
you shouldn't even use SMS for that, lol
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Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:49:43
10:49:43
especially OTPs
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:50:04
10:50:04
it the most insecure way of receiving OTPs
Kohane06.04.2018
10:50:16
10:50:16
US is the land of iOS and iMessage
Oh, iMessage is really handy but needs two Apple users, so it's not a thing to me.Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:50:17
10:50:17
depends on the bank, but yes
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:50:37
10:50:37
the SS7 system used in US is so bad
GoogleAnxhelo06.04.2018
10:50:44
10:50:44
you can get hacked so easily
Kawaii06.04.2018
10:50:56
10:50:56
I don't use banking apps. I don't trust them.
we have this system for electronically transferring money called UPI hereand its the only service thats truly bank agnostic
but it only works via app
Anxhelo06.04.2018
10:51:16
10:51:16
the best banking app I've used hands down is the one from Raiffeisen Bank
damn they've done a good job with it
Kohane06.04.2018
10:51:38
10:51:38
we have this system for electronically transferring money called UPI here
Well, there's the same here but you do it from coomputer. You can use an app but it's optional.Kawaii06.04.2018
10:51:59
10:51:59
Well, there's the same here but you do it from coomputer. You can use an app but it's optional.
doesnt that defeat the purpose thoughi mean, you cant carry your laptop to the supermarket
and it IS safer than credit card
/ debit card
Kohane06.04.2018
10:52:31
10:52:31
doesnt that defeat the purpose though
No. I don't think so. I still don't need to go to the bank branch to do my stuff.Kawaii06.04.2018
10:52:52
10:52:52
No. I don't think so. I still don't need to go to the bank branch to do my stuff.
yeah but you can only use that for online transactionsnot at local shops
so that method doesnt replace credit/debit card or cash
Kohane06.04.2018
10:53:18
10:53:18
and it IS safer than credit card
German banks only give a debit card. If you want a credit card you have to request it separately.Kawaii06.04.2018
10:53:19
10:53:19
which is the point of it
German banks only give a debit card. If you want a credit card you have to request it separately.
its the same everywhereboth are super unsafe
Daniel Andrei06.04.2018
10:54:03
10:54:03
best phone ever
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