As wel all know, vi vi vi, the editor of the beast.

Emacs.

Emacs sounds so cool imo.

As wel all know, vi vi vi, the editor of the beast.

Wew. Such wise words, much knowledge

Rubbish. Emacs is the best.

As wel all know, vi vi vi, the editor of the beast.

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The good part of emacs is, the most basic bindings have to do with the naming. I haven't used emasc in a long time, but I could get productive with it fast again. Force me to use vim though, and I'll have to go through the tutorial again.

No one really uses all the shortcuts of vim I guess. They're a tad overwhelming even if you have somewhat practice at it

Also, I guess Vi only is more used because newbs can't quit vi in the first place, so they'll have to live with it until they learn how to :wq!

Sigh... editor wars. I wrote code with Google Documents once.

oh my god

It's a highly elaborated rouse.

I've been using vim since the past year and all I use are exit related, save, last line, first line, search, sed and delete word/line

There are tons of them I don't even want to use em

Also, I guess Vi only is more used because newbs can't quit vi in the first place, so they'll have to live with it until they learn how to :wq!

there's also :x , too many keys

Nice. I think I've seen this before... on Discord?

there's also :x , too many keys

This. I only recently got to know that :x does the same thing as :wq

also :!ping ddg.co

Yeah, I heard of that some weeks ago on Discord. Then again, I don't use it in the first place.

also :r /etc/udev.conf to paste text inside

Nice. I think I've seen this before... on Discord?

No

and if you gf on a URL it'll be downloaded automatically

also :!ping ddg.co

Basically :! executes shell commands if I'm not wrong

Basically :! executes shell commands if I'm not wrong

yes

No

Then have you sent it here before?

Then have you sent it here before?

Yes

also, there's vim modelines

to spice your files

to spice your files

Wait what? Could you explain a tad, please?

Haha, in which bible is that written?

The Emacs documentation

Wait what? Could you explain a tad, please?

vim modelines are placed in a comment at EOF to :set some configuration for that specific file

Repent your sins to Saint IGNUtius

ie. # vim: tw=80 placed at the end of file, will fold that file to 80 characters width

Repent your sins to Saint IGNUtius

So it shall be.

vim modelines are placed in a comment at EOF to :set some configuration for that specific file

That sounds very useful tbh. That's for the trick, lol

My favorite is # vim: fdm=indent, and if you hit zM it'll unfold all your code. Fold back with zR

The church of Emacs welcomes all sinners who have lost their way

This is file specific yeah?

That sounds very useful tbh. That's for the trick, lol

More abou that http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Modeline_magic

As wel all know, vi vi vi, the editor of the beast.

Classic ???

oh my, the quality of photo... ?‍♂️

I know what folded codes are but never really found any use of them tbh.

if you have many LOC you're going to find it handy

oh my, the quality of photo... ?‍♂️

A tad too compressed

lol yeah

Fedora 28 Beta is GOLD

Nice

if you have many LOC you're going to find it handy

Like, folding off functions or something?

telegram using the same picture compression engine from Facebook

Like, folding off functions or something?

exactly

you can even fold/unfold by levels

Ah, sounds nice.

read more on :h fold

Fedora 28 Beta is GOLD

Awesome ?? !

Fedora 28 Beta is GOLD

Might be a dumb question but is there any way to check what's going on in fedora 28 BETA?

And also, what does gold mean?

Means there's no blocking issues

So the beta version can be delivered to users

After further tests comes the stable version

Oh, that sounds nice. Its near ready then..

And there's meetings for its status too

Fedora 28 Beta To Be Released Next Week http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-28-Beta-Next-Week

Is that ok to have over 300MB of dependencies for cockpit?

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Is that ok to have over 300MB of dependencies for cockpit?

It installs a lot of services by default so likely, yes.

If you want just the integration without the entire dashboard you only need to install cockpit-bridge and the respective modules that you need.

So cockpit-bridge and cockpit-storaged , then connect to that machine from your local cockpit instance to manage it trough ssh.

Just curious I'm trying to make it bind port, so dependencies is not the problem right now..

it is not just web control panel i guess

Just curious I'm trying to make it bind port, so dependencies is not the problem right now..

If you want to manage remote servers dont open up their cockpit dashboard to the world.

Ideally you setup cockpit only locally and then connect to other servers that have cockpit-bridge installed trough the local setup.

If you want to manage remote servers dont open up their cockpit dashboard to the world.

It's supposed to be local interface?

Oh

Now I think that cockpit is overkill for only one machine

Its a super nice thing to have for sure, even for a single machine.

But it does make things more fun when you have multiple machines

I'm too poor for fun?

Just use vms then :P

Is there more light weight versions of cockpit?..

Is there more light weight versions of cockpit?..

what do you want to do with it?

Is there more light weight versions of cockpit?..

What should that alternative offer? Also, "SSH"

What should that alternative offer? Also, "SSH"

this is exactly what I wanted to propose ;)

The main reason is service control without ssh

over web interface

The main reason is service control without ssh

So you want a clickibunti ui to press "start/restart/stop" on services?

Yeah I wanted to code it my self, but then I thought out all the parts of my project and it got boring.. so I decided to just find install and something

Yeah I wanted to code it my self, but then I thought out all the parts of my project and it got boring.. so I decided to just find install and something

What would having such an interface make it excel over systemctl $action name ?

I like web interface (console is still cool), it's really practical. You can have an access almost from every device and do necessary stuff

I like web interface (console is still cool), it's really practical. You can have an access almost from every device and do necessary stuff

You can also do SSH from 99% of devices :P

And cockpit and/or all system control webuis require you to have a system capable enough of running a browser that makes them also able to run some kind of ssh.

You can also do SSH from 99% of devices :P

It's not that convenient from smartphone to work with cli..

It's not that convenient from smartphone to work with cli..

Connectbot allows you to create snippets and put them as "insta-execute" links on your homescreen.

And cockpit and/or all system control webuis require you to have a system capable enough of running a browser that makes them also able to run some kind of ssh.

Is it just a apache with cgi or something?

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.connectbot/

Is it just a apache with cgi or something?

Oh no, cockpit is its own service.

Automaton of daily routines is big part of my life.. so I look for solutions, can't stop :D