we all hope that Torvalds is a kind of superhero that will never die.

You must be trolling, right?

You must be trolling, right?

what

>Linus Torvalds >superhero Choose one.

What will happen to Linux, if Torvalds dies?

probably someone else takes over

Question: what's the point of blocking in telegram if I can still see x y or z's messages in a group?

How can I format my keyring password? I seem to have forgotten it behind another zillion of passwords, kek.

Bump.

Setup rpmfusion and do dnf install telegram-desktop

Danke. Will do so soon™.

probably someone else takes over

Our god Stallman, for sure.

Question: what's the point of blocking in telegram if I can still see x y or z's messages in a group?

Blocking on Telegram works on private messaging only. There's no filter feature in group chats as of yet. You might suggest that feature; I'd love to filter other's messages in group chats as well. :)

lol

So if I have an issue with someone on the channel I don't have a choice? Other than stop stop using it? That's just wrong.

So if I have an issue with someone on the channel I don't have a choice? Other than stop stop using it? That's just wrong.

Talk to @durov, friend. ?

gnome-shell-extension-topicons-plus? If yes, relogin

Just a question.... Why GNOME dosen't support this natively?

Just a question.... Why GNOME dosen't support this natively?

Because they removed it by intention

How can I format my keyring password? I seem to have forgotten it behind another zillion of passwords, kek.

seahorse. Right click on Keyring. Delete. Voilà!

Just a question.... Why GNOME dosen't support this natively?

Gnome overlords decided in their wisdom that systrays are futile and archaic so they should not exist. If I remember correctly one of the folks directly in charge said that there weren't many apps that used it anyway

Gnome overlords decided in their wisdom that systrays are futile and archaic so they should not exist. If I remember correctly one of the folks directly in charge said that there weren't many apps that used it anyway

Not many, but some very basic ones

The worst thing is that topicons plus will probably stop working soon

At least dropbox has a daemon

owncloud doesn't seem to be caring about this

Not many, but some very basic ones

Oh I know that, the lack of systray is something I loathe from gnome

At least dropbox has a daemon

Nextcloud-client?

Gnome overlords decided in their wisdom that systrays are futile and archaic so they should not exist. If I remember correctly one of the folks directly in charge said that there weren't many apps that used it anyway

I mean, I don't really disagree but they shouldn't be entirely removed, just disabled by default and flagged as not being worked on

The worst thing is that topicons plus will probably stop working soon

The dev said he won't be doing it anymore,so it should be ok until gnome overlords change something in the API that kills it

Gnome overlords decided in their wisdom that systrays are futile and archaic so they should not exist. If I remember correctly one of the folks directly in charge said that there weren't many apps that used it anyway

Well, their point is tha this kind of icons keep people distracted from their work. Which is true. But of course some of them are useful because you want to be distracted by them. They are often status indicators and this way should be available somewhere.

isn't it also that instead of the old-style, xorg-based tray icons app developers are supposed to use some new standard?

Morning!!!

Morning!!!

good morning

Happy Valentine's Day to the ones who believes on it

The standard was a problem, mainly because some DEs like KDE would follow it and others wouldn't

I remember even way back in kde 3.x reading arguments about systray handling

Nextcloud-client?

Can nextcould work just with a daemon, without a tray icon?

Yes

Source, no tray on arch and it's just fine

Can nextcould work just with a daemon, without a tray icon?

Actually a good question, I use topicons myself .-.

Source, no tray on arch and it's just fine

how did you do it?

Is someone here experienced with Audacity?

There's a desktop sync client, then it does everything automatically or you can control it through that client

Gnome overlords decided in their wisdom that systrays are futile and archaic so they should not exist. If I remember correctly one of the folks directly in charge said that there weren't many apps that used it anyway

I mean, why do you need those

They want to innovate

They want to innovate

+1

forgot to add the /s ?

BTW is there any GNOME telegram group?

I mean, why do you need those

Overlords? You really don't. Systray icons? To keep appraised of stuff and hide some apps you need open but not actively so. Mysterious technology, obviously

/s

forgot to add the /s ?

Inadvertent truth :P

/s

BLUE TEXT MUST CLICK I AM A STUPID ANIMAL THAT IS ATTRACTED TO COLORS

Heheh

I am totally against the removal of systray icons though

That's why I haven't used GNOME since quite some time

BLUE TEXT MUST CLICK I AM A STUPID ANIMAL THAT IS ATTRACTED TO COLORS

God, this virus is everywhere

I am totally against the removal of systray icons though

I don`t mind, tbh. I actually disable them on my music players, and tg desktop elsewhere...

God, this virus is everywhere

You can see you caused it, right?

I don`t mind, tbh. I actually disable them on my music players, and tg desktop elsewhere...

I would lose track of things if I wouldn't have those

They increase my productivity

But each one to his own

Yeah, choice is Linux...

I mean, I understand that you want to remove them, but just keep an option to enable/disable on desire

Don't become Apple

You shouldn't impose how users must behave

Yeah, makes sense...

Where's the free open source spirit there

Limiting the users

ERROR: S client not available

I mean, I understand that you want to remove them, but just keep an option to enable/disable on desire

isn't there an option to install an addon that adds them?

isn't there an option to install an addon that adds them?

Why use an addon though and not keep it native?

The addon maintainer might want to stop updating it

Why should users keep their hopes on one/some devs

Why use an addon though and not keep it native?

why add another functionality and make whole thing harder to maintain when you can offload it to people who care about this functionality? ;)

It's not another functionality though

I'm not a fan of what Gnome is doing, but I think I understand their idea

It's just a switch

Hide/show

It's not another functionality though

so... the systray is already implemented in Gnome, but disabled without a switch?

Where's the free open source spirit there

Well, Gnome is free software. Everybody can fork, improve and modify it. But it looks like not enough people where annoyed of it now or accepted it

ah yeah, there's this bottom panel with them

*there was

so... the systray is already implemented in Gnome, but disabled without a switch?

Dunno, haven't used it in a while

>>> Fork GNOME and implement systray <<<

Why bother

Just switch to other DE

?

You have the freedom of choice

If you're not a dev with free time to work on forking it

That's also possible ^^

I just wanted to point out that complaining about it doesn't help

Change it or use something else. Or when you want to complain: Go to a mailinglist, issue tracker, communication channel, … where people who made this decision are present

Doing it here doesn't help anyone

Change it or use something else. Or when you want to complain: Go to a mailinglist, issue tracker, communication channel, … where people who made this decision are present

Yeah I did take action

I changed my DE long ago

Because I didn't have the time nor will to complain on their comms channels

Problem solved

Anyone using the dropdown shell extension? Do you get terminal job notifications? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/442/drop-down-terminal/

Anyone using the dropdown shell extension? Do you get terminal job notifications? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/442/drop-down-terminal/

I am, never tried that tho.