Just for apps?

Because of the services and background stuff that are there because the average user needs it or may need it, but I don't use it at all.

Ok

It's cherrypicking what I do

This make sense :)

Because then you get more things

If I install KDE on top of Workstation is the desktop only. It doesn't even install Dolphin. So I can cherrypick what I actually want. As I don't use Gnome, their stuff doesn't bother me.

But for a strange reason, (maybe i am completely wrong) fedora workstation is less sluggish than fedora netinstall with gnome on top

And it's always useful to have an alternative programme and desktop in case something fails,

If I install KDE on top of Workstation is the desktop only. It doesn't even install Dolphin. So I can cherrypick what I actually want. As I don't use Gnome, their stuff doesn't bother me.

Hm. So install a thin layer over the clutter, more or less?

Hm. So install a thin layer over the clutter, more or less?

Yup.

But for a strange reason, (maybe i am completely wrong) fedora workstation is less sluggish than fedora netinstall with gnome on top

Maybe. I never tried netinstall. I did netinstall long ago with Debian.

But Debian is always lighter. I don't know why.

Tried long time ago but i like fedora better

Yesterday i tried installing haiku

God it's almost easier to install gentoo

Damn distro hopping :p

(Even if haiku is not a distro)

Tried long time ago but i like fedora better

Yes, me too. But not all my computers can handle Fedora. But Debian works everywhere.

Last week i installed haiku correctly after the fourth attempt

Unfortunately it's not ready for the daily usage so i put fedora back

Yesterday decided to give it another chance

After the tenth attempt i got tired and i put fedora back

Thing is, it always fail to write the bootloader

So i can't boot the system

Yes, me too. But not all my computers can handle Fedora. But Debian works everywhere.

Even with lighter de's?

Yes.

And it's always useful to have an alternative programme and desktop in case something fails,

Yes! That's correct even a full desktop might be broken sometimes, I always install at least 3 xfce+plasma+lxqt..... Also fluxbox

Yes! That's correct even a full desktop might be broken sometimes, I always install at least 3 xfce+plasma+lxqt..... Also fluxbox

I tried to use Fluxbox but couldn't

I tried to use Fluxbox but couldn't

Why?

It's as far from my workflow as it gets

Does someone try the LXQt spin?

Yee, on rawhide, no less ..

Oh, I always do that. I don't install the spin, I install Workstation and whatever desktops on top.

Me too :)

Would you suggest it as a good LXQt option? I'd like to try it in a good enviroment

I'd recommend it and openmandriva LXQt (alternate desktop in live ISO) for well done LXQts...

I tried to use Fluxbox but couldn't

Have you tried i3?

Did you knew about this https://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/ ? The official ansible infra repo for Fedora project. Quite an inspiration ?

Have you tried i3?

Yeah, and... same. Those things are just not for me.

Not saying anything bad. It's just that they are not for me.

Not saying anything bad. It's just that they are not for me.

Nah, I got it...

That's why there are so many Linux DEs...

Exactly.

Did you knew about this https://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/ ? The official ansible infra repo for Fedora project. Quite an inspiration ?

Yes

I just found it today

is there anything out there interesting like this one?

I have a feeling this repo is only used for staging, as it's a little messy

@dminca this repo is used for prod and stg

@dminca this repo is used for prod and stg

ah ok, thanks ! ?

question

why are you using copy to add YUM repos instead of yum_repository ?

I think it feels a bit messy because there are a lot of application in fedora infra

Might be an old way to do it. I am not sure feel free to send patches to the fedora infra mailling list

It will be appreciated

?

Might be an old way to do it. I am not sure feel free to send patches to the fedora infra mailling list

Where can I get some instructions on how to contribute?

is there anything out there interesting like this one?

ansible galaxy

This is a good place to start https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure

This is a good place to start https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure

Thanks!

https://galaxy.ansible.com/

And there too https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted

https://galaxy.ansible.com/

Thanks Tobi, I know about Ansible Galaxy. I was asking whether there's another Fedora or RH Ansible repository visible to public :)

@dminca it is very easy to get into the apprentice group

Just try to make it to one of the irc meeting

And introduce yourself

Nice! ?

Clement o/

Surprised to see you here :p

ERROR: S client not available

And help with ansible will be super appreciated

o/

I am getting started with telegram ?

Nice. You might want to claim cverna username in settings before someone else does.

Done thanks

?

cverna++

No cookies ??? ?

No cookies ??? ?

Not until someone adds the karma bot ;)

wow didn't knew abadger was also a member of #fedora-admin

I know him from #ansible

Before ansible he was part of the fedora engineering team

wow didn't knew abadger was also a member of #fedora-admin

What's his name?

What's his name?

Toshio Kuratomi (abadger1999)

Before ansible he was part of the fedora engineering team

he's a saint, I don't know where he has so much time to handle everything :)

Toshio Kuratomi (abadger1999)

Ah okkk...

he's a saint, I don't know where he has so much time to handle everything :)

:D

Cannot upgrade fedora, it tells that file from libstdc++-7.3.1 pckage is in conflict with file from libstdc++-7.2.1-2.fc27.x86_64 and it happens 3-5 times

Cannot upgrade fedora, it tells that file from libstdc++-7.3.1 pckage is in conflict with file from libstdc++-7.2.1-2.fc27.x86_64 and it happens 3-5 times

sudo dnf upgrade --refresh --best --allowerasing

Did it now, same result

could you paste the full log error (including commands issued) on https://paste.fedoraproject.org/ and share the link

Error text is in different language...

It happens after blackout

I was updating fedora and electricity gone while updating, so maybe just dead package

I'd recommend it and openmandriva LXQt (alternate desktop in live ISO) for well done LXQts...

Thx :)

and in case where to report it?

Looks like a bug. Check that you have no extensions enabled. If it still appears after disabling extensions, report it to https://bugzilla.gnome.org

yep i have the usual dash to dock

anyway rebotted 2 times and seems is gone

Oh, this happened a few times. It's a bug I think, I guess you should report it to Mutter or whatever the window manager is in Gnome.

Oh, this happened a few times. It's a bug I think, I guess you should report it to Mutter or whatever the window manager is in Gnome.

nautilus - didn't thought of it