why dnf packages manager could not like pip

This is actually one thing Modularity plans to solve.

pip freeze > requirements.txt

it has that feature, and it's called dnf list

it has that feature, and it's called dnf list

how about pip install -r

how about pip install -r

you're gonna have to awk through that list to get only the 1st column, but you can dnf install then after cleaning up the list

it requires a little manual job, but it gets the job done lol

good plan

that's why I always suggest avoidig all the hassle by writing a simple Ansible playbook

you can restore your system in max. 5 min with an ansible-playbook playbook.yml

by the way, does dnf keep a history of installed packages, something like pacman does in the /var/log/pacman.log ?

Oh yeah, it does, and it's called dnf history

well

nice job

you can restore your system in max. 5 min with an ansible-playbook playbook.yml

i will try it

i will try it

you can find many examples on GitHub of people bootstrapping their Fedora systems with Ansible, there are many interesting playbooks in there ?

you can find many examples on GitHub of people bootstrapping their Fedora systems with Ansible, there are many interesting playbooks in there ?

play book, just install packages?

can playbook do other things?

not only that, you can deploy your dotfiles (ie. .bashrc etc..)

good

thank u bro

welcome. As always you can find more details in their docs http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/index.html

I need to learn ansible sometime in the future, it looks interesting

I need to learn ansible sometime in the future, it looks interesting

it's not hard, it's just plain yaml

it's not hard, it's just plain yaml

yeah, but I guess it's not the format that's hard, but achieving some specific things using this format and what ansible gives you ;)

seem's like kubernetes pod config file

yeah, but I guess it's not the format that's hard, but achieving some specific things using this format and what ansible gives you ;)

every module that you're using has examples on how to use it

that's good, a documentation without examples is always offputting

seem's like kubernetes pod config file

exactly

that's good, a documentation without examples is always offputting

here's an example http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/dnf_module.html#examples

pretty self-explanatory eh?

looks... really nice. I'll have to set up a clean fedora in a docker and create an ansible playbook of what I always do on a clean install to make it mine :)

even though for my needs I guess a shell script would be fine too

I started with a shell script as well

but where's a learning experience in that? I can already write a shell script, so it's not fun anymore

yeah, you'll hit a threshold sometime with the shell script

it'll become unmaintainable

here's my first shell script for provisioning everything lol https://github.com/dminca/dotfiles/blob/master/init It became bloated at some point, and decided to migrate to Ansible.

I've heard that Ansible does not describe steps that have to be done, but a state that the system needs to be in, so if you'd add a new package to your playbook, all computers managed that way would only install what's missing. Is that true?

Fedora isn't often thought about like the desktop Linux os we think of Ubuntu as.

Exactly...

I've heard that Ansible does not describe steps that have to be done, but a state that the system needs to be in, so if you'd add a new package to your playbook, all computers managed that way would only install what's missing. Is that true?

Of course. If the package exists, it'll output OK, if it doesn't and it's going to be installed, it'll output CHANGED

By the way

Voted 2 times, 1 for my wifi connection and the other one for my phone connection :p

cheater :P

well if it was permitted, I wouldn't call that cheating

more like a backdoor lol

or maybe a honeypot ? (getting suspicious)

Ok why is my mom freaking our age asl for laspass to be setup then I did but she now screaming at me....

Okay I am running to some issue.

anyone know is there a scured way to store a key on NFC tag and read i?

I use a respberry pi with a NFC tag reader to replace my car security system.

Now it is the time to write the key code into my car.

here's my first shell script for provisioning everything lol https://github.com/dminca/dotfiles/blob/master/init It became bloated at some point, and decided to migrate to Ansible.

For those who want to be inspired: https://github.com/sisheogorath/ansible-client

It's a basic setup. It's a bit bloated but works pretty well.

Keep in mind with vscode it provides some non-free software on your system

For those who want to be inspired: https://github.com/sisheogorath/ansible-client

that's quite interesting man

I'd suggest you install Ansible via pip instead of dnf, as that's always the latest ?

For those who want to be inspired: https://github.com/sisheogorath/ansible-client

There https://github.com/SISheogorath/ansible-client/pull/14 ?

I'd suggest you install Ansible via pip instead of dnf, as that's always the latest ?

That's not a good idea, at least not in global context. And using dnf version is fine, as latest ansible isn't that much ahead.

That's not a good idea, at least not in global context. And using dnf version is fine, as latest ansible isn't that much ahead.

ah ok then, close that one

ah ok then, close that one

I'll make a proper reply :)

I'd suggest you install Ansible via pip instead of dnf, as that's always the latest ?

Stop

Never install things your package manager offers trough pip

Fedora is working on (afaik) explicit dnf-pip integration to stop people from doing exactly that because its a horrendous practice.

And for a single persons pc you might not want the complexity (and beauty) of ansible, as a single shellscript would entirely suffice.

anyone know is there a scured way to store a key on NFC tag and read i?

There is no secure way, if its nfc there is always a way to extract it.

Fedora is working on (afaik) explicit dnf-pip integration to stop people from doing exactly that because its a horrendous practice.

that's actually a good path

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And for a single persons pc you might not want the complexity (and beauty) of ansible, as a single shellscript would entirely suffice.

You'll end up with an unmaintable 500 lines shell script eventually. Good luck with that lol

You'll end up with an unmaintable 500 lines shell script eventually. Good luck with that lol

You can look at my script. Perfectly maintainable.

I'm just gonna say there's no silver bullet for this one, everyone's free to use whatever they wish ?

And i am getting paid to write ansible scripts fairly often and i still think for single person quick reinstall usage a shell script is often the faster and better choice

You can look at my script. Perfectly maintainable.

show me

^

no github?

thanks, I'm checking

And even if i added gsettings changes and more then i'd only add it in a seperate codeblock

no github?

Lol no, thats only on my private gitlab and on my nextcloud

Lol no, thats only on my private gitlab and on my nextcloud

oh ok

This way i have two places where its version history is preserved But yeah i should propably share a link so everybody can get the latest version simply (for gnome so far only)

This way i have two places where its version history is preserved But yeah i should propably share a link so everybody can get the latest version simply (for gnome so far only)

223 LOC, what I'd tell ya' ?

but it's clean, that I could say

223 LOC, what I'd tell ya' ?

I can make it 5 LOC without comments.

But then you loose the readability of all the packages.

I can make it 5 LOC without comments.

how, makin' one-liners? To say goodbye readability

how, makin' one-liners? To say goodbye readability

Exactly

223 LOC, what I'd tell ya' ?

LOC != maintainability tho

And again, LOC !== .. THAT.

lol

mmkay

the scripting era is gone my friends

now the Infrastructure as Code era begun

Just because it has alot of LOC doesnt mean its unreadable or unmaintainable. And newsflash: if this was an ansible script guess what it'd have? twice the LOC because i still need to list all packages.

?

Plus i'd need to teach people to first install ansible or add a start.sh to do so.

now the Infrastructure as Code era begun

Dont get me wrong, i love ansible. But for the purpose of a beginner friendly simple script to just add a ton of nifty extras fedora comes without by default a .sh is more than enough.

okay :)

hey ppl, i have lxqt and Budgie, which google phrase i should search for make a qt app looks like gtk in gtk DE?)

hm, wright question is a half of answer

ty guys