Well, I shall test them

@jflory @Kohane Spam here.

Done

Hmm that's interesting. With a current kernel, is TLP giving you any additional savings at all?

Just under an additional hour with 4.15

This is not th proper way to use qt 3d graphic

Anyone knows app to do unrar on main repository?

Anyone knows app to do unrar on main repository?

No.. I use 7zip myself

This is a poll asking people to vote for the best Linux distro of 2018 http://m.linuxjournal.com/content/best-linux-distribution-2018

Mint has more vote than all other.

Mint has more vote than all other.

I voted for Fedora, obviously!

I voted for Fedora, obviously!

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can't see poll at all

Hey

I voted for Solaris

This is a poll asking people to vote for the best Linux distro of 2018 http://m.linuxjournal.com/content/best-linux-distribution-2018

Everyone vote for Gentoo pls

Everyone vote for Gentoo pls

I did, probably not going to win though unfortunately

Thanks bb

If anyone else is around for FOSDEM, come find us at the Fedora booth!

Nice

??

What is fosdem?

What is fosdem?

fosdem.org

It's the largest open source conference of Europe.

It's the largest open source conference of Europe.

Ok thanks

Np :)

Anyone knows app to do unrar on main repository?

I'm using unar

Just under an additional hour with 4.15

You mean you get one hour less of battery life without TLP? Wow!

You mean you get one hour less of battery life without TLP? Wow!

Yeah... TLP is pretty damn awesome.

Speaking of which, I need to install it now! Fresh install on my laptop just a while ago.

Yeah... TLP is pretty damn awesome.

Should be installed by default then if the installer detects a laptop. ?

Should be installed by default then if the installer detects a laptop. ?

That would be nice, but unfortunately not many systems do that.

I'm using Deepin right now and it doesn't come with TLP preinstalled/preconfigured. Manjaro does though, I though that was pretty nice. :D

It's an awful idea

This is not th proper way to use qt 3d graphic

Why not? What's wrong with it?

Great pic!

It's an awful idea

Not at all, lol.

You're projecting. ?

Oh, nice pic!!

From the VLC booth at FOSDEM ??

Nice

HAHAH that's fantastic

This one is epic!

From the VLC booth at FOSDEM ??

Oh great!

Not at all, lol.

It must depend on the processor, but for my new computer tlp is more of a disadvantage

Was in store today, there is ncurses software on cashier's machines

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SELinux on breakup mode with snapd on F27

Welcome to SELinux

Snapd >.>

Fedora has native flatpak support

Lol

Fedora has native flatpak support

I'm interested in knowing more. I always tend to use snap on every distro I hop to. is there any reason not to? @buredoRUNofthecyborg once suggested I use nix. on the other side of things, dnf is painfully slow in its metadata checks at run.

I just installed pycharm from snap ignoring their .tar.gz

Fedora has native flatpak support

And? :)

I'm interested in knowing more. I always tend to use snap on every distro I hop to. is there any reason not to? @buredoRUNofthecyborg once suggested I use nix. on the other side of things, dnf is painfully slow in its metadata checks at run.

Well, snap tries to be cross distro as flatpak does and appimage does and … does. It's an endless game. Distros live from diversity and no solution really makes it to get happy users on all platforms. Flatpak is the RH based try to fix the "cross-distro" issue as snap is the canonical based try to do the same. Different concepts, different solutions. RH has very strict security featues -> SELinux which ban almost everything unexpected. As Flatpak is natively part of Fedora its userbase is bigger and people take more care of it. You are actually the first snap user on Fedora I met. I know in theory there are some more, but I don't know if they use SELinux :D

ERROR: S client not available

Well, snap tries to be cross distro as flatpak does and appimage does and … does. It's an endless game. Distros live from diversity and no solution really makes it to get happy users on all platforms. Flatpak is the RH based try to fix the "cross-distro" issue as snap is the canonical based try to do the same. Different concepts, different solutions. RH has very strict security featues -> SELinux which ban almost everything unexpected. As Flatpak is natively part of Fedora its userbase is bigger and people take more care of it. You are actually the first snap user on Fedora I met. I know in theory there are some more, but I don't know if they use SELinux :D

I just pacified my SELinux. told it to STFU forever ;)

FFS I run GNU/Linux, "there shouldn't be any viruses in here" ;)

I just pacified my SELinux. told it to STFU forever ;)

That's the worst solution. It would even better to change to another distro instead

Well, snap tries to be cross distro as flatpak does and appimage does and … does. It's an endless game. Distros live from diversity and no solution really makes it to get happy users on all platforms. Flatpak is the RH based try to fix the "cross-distro" issue as snap is the canonical based try to do the same. Different concepts, different solutions. RH has very strict security featues -> SELinux which ban almost everything unexpected. As Flatpak is natively part of Fedora its userbase is bigger and people take more care of it. You are actually the first snap user on Fedora I met. I know in theory there are some more, but I don't know if they use SELinux :D

does everyone do as many flatpaks as snaps?

does everyone do as many flatpaks as snaps?

I use flatpak only for software that is not on the official repositories. Check flathub.org

That's the worst solution. It would even better to change to another distro instead

Was kiddin. SELinux is broke with snap lately, not sure if its going anywhere. guess I'll use flatpaks

I use flatpak only for software that is not on the official repositories. Check flathub.org

Thanks!

Was kiddin. SELinux is broke with snap lately, not sure if its going anywhere. guess I'll use flatpaks

File a bug report and it'll get fixed soon

there are innumerous

If you know SELinux and Snap a little bit you can also create and own policy and contribute it later

Instructions are in the SELinux error

does everyone do as many flatpaks as snaps?

I'll put it this way; there was a Spotify and a Skype flatpak on Flathub, before there were "official" snaps.

If you know SELinux and Snap a little bit you can also create and own policy and contribute it later

For now, I set it to permissive. So no reports lost there.

Was kiddin. SELinux is broke with snap lately, not sure if its going anywhere. guess I'll use flatpaks

Try nix too. I'll send you some tutorials and a copr repo, so you can try it.

I'll put it this way; there was a Spotify and a Skype flatpak on Flathub, before there were "official" snaps.

Got it. goodbye snap; so long.

For now, I set it to permissive. So no reports lost there.

That's not the solution!

Got it. goodbye snap; so long.

Yay!

Got it. goodbye snap; so long.

@SISheogorath

Got it. goodbye snap; so long.

Remind me again: did you have issues with snaps and SELinux?

Try nix too. I'll send you some tutorials and a copr repo, so you can try it.

Wait! Nix is more deeply integrated than snap is right? kinda dnf maybe?

Remind me again: did you have issues with snaps and SELinux?

I can't remember anything with the name snaps atm ;)

Wait! Nix is more deeply integrated than snap is right? kinda dnf maybe?

It's a package manager, and it doesn't have the level of confinement flatpak does.

I can't remember anything with the name snaps atm ;)

Snaps, whatever.

Well, snap tries to be cross distro as flatpak does and appimage does and … does. It's an endless game. Distros live from diversity and no solution really makes it to get happy users on all platforms. Flatpak is the RH based try to fix the "cross-distro" issue as snap is the canonical based try to do the same. Different concepts, different solutions. RH has very strict security featues -> SELinux which ban almost everything unexpected. As Flatpak is natively part of Fedora its userbase is bigger and people take more care of it. You are actually the first snap user on Fedora I met. I know in theory there are some more, but I don't know if they use SELinux :D

Not completely true: flatpak is RH backed, but independent, iiuc.

And? :)

That statement wasn't calling for a conclusion, tbh. But if you do want one, flatpak issues on Ubuntu LTS (18.04) are flagged low priority.

It's a package manager, and it doesn't have the level of confinement flatpak does.

So what did you mean by "distro-agnostic" that night? how exactly does Dnf, Nix, Snap, and Flatpak stack up against?

So what did you mean by "distro-agnostic" that night? how exactly does Dnf, Nix, Snap, and Flatpak stack up against?

Honestly? I use dnf. And I play with nix. I haven't tried comparing them.

So what did you mean by "distro-agnostic" that night? how exactly does Dnf, Nix, Snap, and Flatpak stack up against?

I'm perfectly happy with the software collection on Fedora's repos and some coprs.

+1 for dnf, except its metadata check lags on each run