Yeah, C++ just makes me angry

Too much work for my chicken brain

I'm just not a big C++ syntax fan

It really isn't tho

Well, it is, from my experience running a server for the last five years, hahah. People usually go heavy on CPUs or graphics cards, which I guess helps, but Minecraft is heavy on memory from a client and server POV

Well, it is, from my experience running a server for the last five years, hahah. People usually go heavy on CPUs or graphics cards, which I guess helps, but Minecraft is heavy on memory from a client and server POV

A server is drastically different though

Well, it is, from my experience running a server for the last five years, hahah. People usually go heavy on CPUs or graphics cards, which I guess helps, but Minecraft is heavy on memory from a client and server POV

That would be Java's fault

You're serving chunks for everyone online

Java programs are just memory intensive in the first place

Just look at IntelliJ

Eclipse

That's when you just want a really good OC'd quad core with hyperthreading disabled doing nothing but Server tasks.

Someone just needs to take rewriting Minecraft in C++ seriously

Ever heard of Minetest? ? https://www.minetest.net/

Open source, C++ Minecraft, pretty much

That's when you just want a really good OC'd quad core with hyperthreading disabled doing nothing but Server tasks.

(and RAM)

Does the activities hotcorner still work this way?

Ever heard of Minetest? ? https://www.minetest.net/

Super cool

Ever heard of Minetest? ? https://www.minetest.net/

Not until right now. But that looks cool

Bedrock Edition...

I think you're thinking of C#, not C++

Ever heard of Minetest? ? https://www.minetest.net/

Yes, and it's not Mineecraft, it disappoints me as a Minecraft alternative. I like it as a voxel engine for other stuff though

I think you're thinking of C#, not C++

I am ?‍♂️

That makes more sense

Well, it is, from my experience running a server for the last five years, hahah. People usually go heavy on CPUs or graphics cards, which I guess helps, but Minecraft is heavy on memory from a client and server POV

Memory is biggest concern. CPU would be second depending on entity count currently loaded.

On a server, you can't have enough mem ?

A server is drastically different though

Well, true. But memory was usually my issue for me and other members of my community when I played it as a game more

Personally from a syntax perspective I'd prefer C# over Java or C++

Well, true. But memory was usually my issue for me and other members of my community when I played it as a game more

That's very interesting. I've seen a fair few people with only 2-4GB of RAM do fine with it ?

On a server, you can't have enough mem ?

Where most of my budget goes for running my community ☹️

Where most of my budget goes for running my community ☹️

Dude, that`s not something to feel sad about :)

Hold yer head high!

I typically allocate ~6GB on the desktop and ~12GB for modded but I use a lot of tweaks that require that, especially annoyingly large and poorly mapped textures

Personally from a syntax perspective I'd prefer C# over Java or C++

I think C# is where the game is going, with all of the editions already using it (gaming consoles, Windows 10 Edition, pocket versions, etc.). But it's controversial to kill off the Java version because so much of the multiplayer community is based in Java. For example, Spigot is the most popular Minecraft server software today (also open source), but it's a fork from a previous project, Bukkit. Almost seven years of development is inside these communities

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/about-spigot

I think C# is where the game is going, with all of the editions already using it (gaming consoles, Windows 10 Edition, pocket versions, etc.). But it's controversial to kill off the Java version because so much of the multiplayer community is based in Java. For example, Spigot is the most popular Minecraft server software today (also open source), but it's a fork from a previous project, Bukkit. Almost seven years of development is inside these communities

I learned Java from trying to make Bukkit plugins, so there ya go :D

I think C# is where the game is going, with all of the editions already using it (gaming consoles, Windows 10 Edition, pocket versions, etc.). But it's controversial to kill off the Java version because so much of the multiplayer community is based in Java. For example, Spigot is the most popular Minecraft server software today (also open source), but it's a fork from a previous project, Bukkit. Almost seven years of development is inside these communities

C# Should never replace any backend ever. If they want to write the client in it, fine.

I learned Java from trying to make Bukkit plugins, so there ya go :D

Me too. ? My first programming projects were Bukkit plugins. I think I still have them on my GitHub… sort of scary to think

its you guys will ban me if i purchased rhel??

its you guys will ban me if i purchased rhel??

Why would that be the case?

Well, it is, from my experience running a server for the last five years, hahah. People usually go heavy on CPUs or graphics cards, which I guess helps, but Minecraft is heavy on memory from a client and server POV

You should try minetest - it should be rather light and threaded

C# Should never replace any backend ever. If they want to write the client in it, fine.

It would be controversial if they did. I think if they ever do go through and abandon Java, that will be the end of my time running a server. Starting over from square 0 is too hard now.

i dontknow its not fedora any/ore

Dude, that`s not something to feel sad about :)

Hahah, thanks man ?

Does the activities hotcorner still work this way?

yes

its you guys will ban me if i purchased rhel??

Why would we ban you? We have no reason to ban you for that. ?

hahahaha

donation to opensource community

yes

I`m definitely mooching the UI then!

i dontknow its not fedora any/ore

Fedora feeds down into rhel? If you're using rhel we cant offer the same level of help, but then again you have enterprise support ?

You should try minetest - it should be rather light and threaded

I linked it earlier. Technically, I sort of imagine it is superior. But it doesn't have the recognition or community, and the only reason I'm still doing Minecraft things is because of my community

It would be controversial if they did. I think if they ever do go through and abandon Java, that will be the end of my time running a server. Starting over from square 0 is too hard now.

It would be a huuuge firefest tbh. Especially considering the HUGE plugin/modding community and all the work that's been done with the FORGE API

I`m definitely mooching the UI then!

Its the gtile extension tho

Its the gtile extension tho

Hmm?

Fedora feeds down into rhel? If you're using rhel we cant offer the same level of help, but then again you have enterprise support ?

basically you are paying for support

It would be a huuuge firefest tbh. Especially considering the HUGE plugin/modding community and all the work that's been done with the FORGE API

Exactly. I think a lot of the small server owners would probably shut down.

Exactly. I think a lot of the small server owners would probably shut down.

Absolutely. I'm sure Giants like Hypixel or Mineplex could probably manage, but they'd be bleeding money for a while

basically you are paying for support

Im aware, thats what im saying. We have no reason to remove you nor would we want to.

And lose a huge userbase

Absolutely. I'm sure Giants like Hypixel or Mineplex could probably manage, but they'd be bleeding money for a while

They'd just rewrite it themselves. Easy when you're a million-dollar operation

Well, easier

Very true ?

^

That's what makes me sad

Because I know that's what will happen if a transition isn't handled very delicately

I understand the change in client, makes sense to me. But if they change the core server its going to cause a massive split.

That worries me.

Im aware, thats what im saying. We have no reason to remove you nor would we want to.

Do I get a older software version for RHRL?

In most cases, yes.

ERROR: S client not available

But it is tested, and supported, thats the point. Plus you get support from a rep when you need it.

Its the gtile extension tho

Kewl, I use it too!

Which one I should get

This is 299 too

So, are you developing software for redhats platforms? If not the top one you have circled. I Need to ask, why arent you just using a community based OS like Fedora?

Is there somthing you need enterprise support for?

Specifically

Giving back to RHEL sounds like a good idea.

I'm thinking running some 3d and video editing spyware on it and also I am renting a server to do my Windows virtual machine. So I might need some suppprt

I'm thinking running some 3d and video editing spyware on it and also I am renting a server to do my Windows virtual machine. So I might need some suppprt

I dont think thats the level of support you are hoping for there.

I'm okay with paying $300 per year for RHEL

That isnt a personal tobias but with 15 years experience fulltime.

Giving back to RHEL sounds like a good idea.

Right nothing wrong with that, I have a sub of my own.

Paying red hat benefiting all you guys

Who use fedora

Using fedora also benifits redhat.

Eh, my company pays enough already

What type of support are these.

So what's the difference between desktop and workstation anyway

So I need a new computer then..

I sold my macbook

https://access.redhat.com/articles/911363

What type of support are these.

https://access.redhat.com/support/offerings/production/soc

I want to run my workstation on my desktop and desktop on my laptop

While they say congifuration they will first ask you to access the knowledge base and read.

Also, for your purpose just ask here first, wine/crossover and virtual machines in virt-maanger are things some of us deal with daily.

I want to run my workstation on my desktop and desktop on my laptop

wot

You can still buy a support ticket but thats more for when your machine dies and you need next-day help to get it back up.

Also, for your purpose just ask here first, wine/crossover and virtual machines in virt-maanger are things some of us deal with daily.

Okay... So I just need self support then.

I want a desktop computer