I just don't like Dolphin's look in general. It's more powerful than Nautilus, but not as good looking

And that comes mainly from the fact that nautilus is very simple

I guess by default maybe it might not look good to you.

Tbh I change mine a fair bit from the default to get it to my taste

I love Gnome and KDE really. I just can't stand how slow KDE can be

I still don't understand this complaint. The KDE installed in my laptop is not slow at all.

I still don't understand this complaint. The KDE installed in my laptop is not slow at all.

KDE eats up memory. I only have 8GB at the moment and Gnome is way faster. Faster to boot, and faster with day to day use

kde is ugly

You should play a bit with the configuration, maybe installing new themes? KDE is really beautiful, but you need to spend a couple of minutes setting things up.

KDE eats up memory. I only have 8GB at the moment and Gnome is way faster. Faster to boot, and faster with day to day use

KDE eats up memory? That doesn't sound quite right, especially if you're using GNOME ?

KDE eats up memory. I only have 8GB at the moment and Gnome is way faster. Faster to boot, and faster with day to day use

I have half of yours and KDE runs smoothly with whatever programmes I need to use on top. You should check what starts automatically with your session, there's probably too much stuff running on background.

I have half of yours and KDE runs smoothly with whatever programmes I need to use on top. You should check what starts automatically with your session, there's probably too much stuff running on background.

This was on a fresh install of Antergos

I've used just about every DE. I don't mind KDE when I have the memory, but right now I don't

oh I am a gnome fan boy

Yeah, we all notice that... ?

I've used just about every DE. I don't mind KDE when I have the memory, but right now I don't

8GB is much more than enough. It's very likely you've run into a nontypical issue.

This was on a fresh install of Antergos

Well, I never used Antergos so I can't tell. Kubuntu is really heavy. I used it once and dumped it. I use KDE on Fedora.

I've run into that nontypical issue everytime I've used KDE then ?

I have always found Gnome to be faster

I've run into that nontypical issue everytime I've used KDE then ?

?

I have always found Gnome to be faster

Faster is not the same as using less memory.

Which one is it?

May I ask what is the fourth language? I'm assuming Albanian, English and Italian as the other 3.

Spanish and a bit of Portuguese

Memory usage can affect speed

Faster is not the same as using less memory.

Also, you can adjust animation smoothness and speed for just about everything, which can drastically affect how it feels in terms of overall speed and responsiveness.

Any reasons to use this dialect in particular?

I started with that at first, so I'm stuck with it now ?

Every distro tweaks their desktop in the way they think will suit better to their users. This means that some distributions will add a lot of extra stuff while others will offer an almost vanilla installation.

Whenever I checked what was causing my systemt o lag it was typically kde

Spanish and a bit of Portuguese

Funny. I speak both

kde is ugly

You said what? Wow

KDE by default isn't the most pleasing to the eye

But it is extremely configurable

I started with that at first, so I'm stuck with it now ?

You can switch to something else. I started with the "normal" German used in Frankfurt and when I moved to Stuttgart (Southern Germany, bordering Switzerland and France) I had to re-learn everything again ?

Spanish and a bit of Portuguese

Oh, true. You mentioned it time ago.

But it is extremely configurable

Totally agree.

You can switch to something else. I started with the "normal" German used in Frankfurt and when I moved to Stuttgart (Southern Germany, bordering Switzerland and France) I had to re-learn everything again ?

Agree, but I sort of like their dialect ?

I'm not aiming to get my German at english/italian levels of knowledge, but just for basic communication

Well, I can understand that. I like Swabian German, even when it's hard to understand to everyone else ?

I have always found Gnome to be faster

I don't know if it's faster but it get on my nerves every time I try. I like the animations though.

Also, you can adjust animation smoothness and speed for just about everything, which can drastically affect how it feels in terms of overall speed and responsiveness.

But unlike gnome, which extensively uses gpu acceleration wherever possible, kde refuses to put patches for anyhting but intel drm.

Which means that if you have even a half decent office gpu gnome will soar years ahead of kde

I highly doubt that. I use quite a variety of different devices, many falling below and others rising above that spec. KDE consistently shows GNOME to be a hogging mess that will snowball and eventually grind to a near-halt over long periods of time.

A lot of that is due to Mutter itself though, so not entirely a criticism of GNOME Shell.

I have always found Gnome to be faster

I have found XFCE the best of them all ?

I have found XFCE the best of them all ?

Well yeah, but ugly

I have found XFCE the best of them all ?

? :P

xfce is nice when you need a basic, rock-solid desktop without any bells or whistles

xfce is nice when you need a basic, rock-solid desktop without any bells or whistles

This is true

Is there a Fedora i3 Spin?

I actually like what Xubuntu did to XFCE, I found it really nice looking by default

Defnitely one of the better looking configs I've seen, I'll admit

Quite nice!

And I've went a lot further, that's not the best yet ?

I know there's too many icons, but I use them all frequently unfortunately

And I have used hardcode tray to get consistent icons

Plus Albert as the launcher, it's miles better than the Gnome super key action

XFCE doesn't change, XFCE doesn't crash (at least for me), XFCE doesn't use too much memory nor does it leak, and it's user friendly at the same time - IMHO the perfect environment for getting work done if you don't like tiling WMs; there's also LXDE but I don't think it's still developed knowing they wanted to switch to Qt

Yeah, plus it's customizable because it acts as modular

Plus Albert as the launcher, it's miles better than the Gnome super key action

I use rofi, I think I needed to compile it myself as it's not in the repo, but it's so fast and just works it's my instant favorite

Default xfce is nothing compared to what you can achieve with it

I use rofi, I think I needed to compile it myself as it's not in the repo, but it's so fast and just works it's my instant favorite

I compiled kde connect myself, the repo version was really old

In total, I have compiled 6-7 programs

Default xfce is nothing compared to what you can achieve with it

yeah, but at the same time it's enough, while I always had the gripe with AwesomeWM/i3/etc. that by default they are practically unusable

I would like to maintain a copr for indicator kde connect

But I don't know if there's enough interest

I highly doubt that. I use quite a variety of different devices, many falling below and others rising above that spec. KDE consistently shows GNOME to be a hogging mess that will snowball and eventually grind to a near-halt over long periods of time.

Exact opposite for me.

Exact opposite for me.

Interesting!

yeah, but at the same time it's enough, while I always had the gripe with AwesomeWM/i3/etc. that by default they are practically unusable

I agree with the default struggles tbh. I'm using Manjaro i3 on my laptop and it's absolutely awesome ( pun intended )! However, when installing it on a system that hadn't already been configured to be, well, not crap, it was just absolutely horrid.

ERROR: S client not available

Good morning guys! Yesterday i have installed upgrade to fedora 27, the situation wasn't change also doing the upgrade of grub. I don't see windows partition! Have you the solution to modify the grub.cfg for see the windows partition?

Have you tried grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg?

Well yeah, but ugly

It isn't! I have XFCE installed in two netbooks and they look pretty. You just need to spend sometime tweaking stuff. What I saw is that Debian based distros bring a wider range of options for XFCE theming than Fedora.

Plus Albert as the launcher, it's miles better than the Gnome super key action

What is Albert? Where can I get it from?

What is Albert? Where can I get it from?

dnf config-manager —add-repo https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:manuelschneid3r/Fedora_Rawhide/home:manuelschneid3r.repo dnf install albert

XFCE doesn't change, XFCE doesn't crash (at least for me), XFCE doesn't use too much memory nor does it leak, and it's user friendly at the same time - IMHO the perfect environment for getting work done if you don't like tiling WMs; there's also LXDE but I don't think it's still developed knowing they wanted to switch to Qt

I don't like much LXDE. But that's just personal. I have a netbook with XFCE+Plank and looks great. I have another with a customised XFCE and looks and behaves like Classic Gnome. But both work smoothly even with low specs hardware and don't crash.

But I don't know if there's enough interest

I think it would be nice. It's up to you.

Have you tried grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg?

This is output

Do you boot trough uefi?

I agree with the default struggles tbh. I'm using Manjaro i3 on my laptop and it's absolutely awesome ( pun intended )! However, when installing it on a system that hadn't already been configured to be, well, not crap, it was just absolutely horrid.

Yeah, the default in most distros is rather ugly. But I find ugly almost all defaults, so that's not an issue to me. I'm used to head straight to configuration appearance.

Have you tried grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg?

Please dont parrot this to most. Most have uefi nowadays and need grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg

The variant you mentioned is only for legacy boot - preferrably list both.

"Don't parrot" LOL

Yeah, the default in most distros is rather ugly. But I find ugly almost all defaults, so that's not an issue to me. I'm used to head straight to configuration appearance.

It's even worse because it's not even as surface-level as looks or theming. It's just obscure and poorly configured control methods :(

Lol

Sorry...

Well, I don't agree, but that's a matter of personal preferences.

Well, I don't agree, but that's a matter of personal preferences.

Don't agree with what?

Do you boot trough uefi?

Yes

Yes

grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg Execute this then

when I press Super+Space

Please dont parrot this to most. Most have uefi nowadays and need grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg

then i try with this command?

then i try with this command?

Yes

He told me: "Command not found" and asked me to install grub2-tools. I'm installing

He told me: "Command not found" and asked me to install grub2-tools. I'm installing

... What version are you on and how did you install it?

yesterday i downloaded fedora media writer on windows; I selected fedora workstation and fedora media writer create automatically usb bootable

I had to download the ISO directly, without passing trough fedora media writer?

yesterday i downloaded fedora media writer on windows; I selected fedora workstation and fedora media writer create automatically usb bootable

Can you open gnome-disks and screenshot it? select your main pc drive where fedora is installed on the left.