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Sadin
18.01.2018
02:25:10
broadcom-wl

Austin
18.01.2018
02:27:43
@sadinfpo how is battery life?

Sadin
18.01.2018
02:29:04
Its fine, I can give you a definitive answer because the battery in mine is going bad to begin with. If you experience high CPU issues some 2013 models ( like mine ) have had a issue with linux where a kworker goes haywire.

Only way to fix is to surpress it...

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Sadin
18.01.2018
02:29:41
Love Fedora under HDPI

Austin
18.01.2018
02:30:45
Okay, thank you very much. I had a Dell XPS 15 that I was running Fedora on, but it had bad coil whine. I'll tough out with the MacBook for a little while intil a new XPS is released.

Sadin
18.01.2018
02:33:10
Austin you should check out the new XPS 13 announced.

Austin
18.01.2018
02:35:15
I've considered it. I think I would rather have the 15" though. I might also get the 15" 2-in-1.

I like the idea of an AMD GPU

Kawaii
18.01.2018
03:21:44
Do you guys use a mail calendar application on your system? Anything you would recommend over evolution? Currently using geary

I like the idea of an AMD GPU
The new ryzen notebooks might be good too

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
03:22:54
Kawaii
18.01.2018
03:22:56
But the only one I've seen is that envy 13

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
03:23:16
But the only one I've seen is that envy 13
There was a Lenovo one at CES, I'll grab the link

Kawaii
18.01.2018
03:23:17
No plan for thinkpad A with ryzen yet

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
03:23:44
https://youtu.be/t3YsZT0ps4U

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Kawaii
18.01.2018
03:23:45
And no rumours either

And is not in their leaked roadmap

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
03:24:03
Geary does only mail tho
GNOME Calendar is what I use alongside it

Austin
18.01.2018
03:31:33
@KawaiiVoldemort I just use Thunderbird.

Kawaii
18.01.2018
03:31:56
Austin
18.01.2018
03:33:31
Is Thunderbird any good?
It's my favorite mail/calendar client. It just works, so I didn't try anything else. It supports sync with Google Calendar which is the only thing I really need to keep my phone and computer on the same page.

Sid
18.01.2018
04:49:19
Is Thunderbird any good?
Yes, very, with the new UI (beta), and some extensions enabled...

Kawaii
18.01.2018
04:50:46
Sid
18.01.2018
04:52:29
What extensions do you use
The one for calendar support, and some others... (I'm terrible with names, and I'm booted into another partition ATM)... I'd suggest you look at the add-ons page to pick what fits you...

Sid
18.01.2018
04:57:27
Thanks
Sure, sorry I'm not more help...

Daniel
18.01.2018
07:18:39
Amazing, muy phone manufacturer shipped my phone with cyanogen. Because it closed, they updated it to nougat 7.0 non cyanogen. Lately my battery was lasting about 7 hours... I was thinking of replacing it but installed LineageOS...



Now it lasts 1 day and it had still 20%...

Mikhail
18.01.2018
07:26:37
Wow

Daniel
18.01.2018
07:38:44
Someone has not optimized well his sooftware ? i was tired of running out of battery at midday, now last until i go to bed and all night

Sure not having google play services is the culprit ???

Mikhail
18.01.2018
07:48:30
Or all that spying stuff companies usually puts in their android software

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
07:58:00
I love how that's always the statement ?

Tobias?
18.01.2018
08:02:48
Do you guys use a mail calendar application on your system? Anything you would recommend over evolution? Currently using geary
I have not yet found a replacement for evolution that can do as much, while remaining open source. Especially as i sync my contacts with my nextcloud which few other things can do, especially thunderbird that needs closed source extensions for this.

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Tobias?
18.01.2018
08:03:05
And thats why i'm juet staying happily on Evo

#hd_scania
18.01.2018
08:04:41
??? Is this sth like dosemu or dosbox??

Kawaii
18.01.2018
08:12:41
And I've already spent an hour trying to fix it

Daniel
18.01.2018
08:26:31
And about mail servers, what do you use? Anyone uses its own server? I tjink it can be a bit unreliable. Any alternatives?

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
08:28:05
Ran my own for a very short while on Ubuntu Server before I realized it was nowhere near worth any of the effort I had put into it. Gmail has just been super easy and convenient, so I stuck there.

Mikhail
18.01.2018
08:36:52
Well, I don't like Google, so I'm using Yandex Mail, it's popular mail service at the ex-USSR territories, it's almost like Gmail but it's not?

#hd_scania
18.01.2018
08:39:16
Well, I don't like Google, so I'm using Yandex Mail, it's popular mail service at the ex-USSR territories, it's almost like Gmail but it's not?
I also dislike Google which I've stopped using Gmail and Play Store, instead you will have found me in Tutanota, OpenMailBox, ProtonMail, F-droid.? https://tutanota.com https://openmailbox.org https://protonmail.ch https://f-droid.org

Mikhail
18.01.2018
08:40:38
Lilithium
18.01.2018
08:40:46
There is a problen with this services - no POP3/IMAP
Comes soon to Protonmail with their Bridge application thingie

Mikhail
18.01.2018
08:41:06
Well, I shall wait

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
08:41:12
Comes soon to Protonmail with their Bridge application thingie
I do like ProtonMail. I'm waiting for a bit before I use a paid plan, but I'm enjoying toying with the free plan for now.

Lilithium
18.01.2018
08:42:36
I'm using the free plan for some time as my main email

Lilithium
18.01.2018
08:43:03
Yalp Store
Doesn't work too well for me

Takes like 10 tries until it successfully signs in

So I just use MicroG + the usual Playstore, that way I can also use paid apps

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Mikhail
18.01.2018
08:43:53
And Yandex is also supports FOSS from 2007, by providing mirror repos for tons of linux distros, including Fedora, in HTTP, FTP, and Rsync

And i don't tell any super-secret things in emails

Mikhail
18.01.2018
08:45:36
it's half unfree, LibreJS supports half of yandex services, for example

Kohane
18.01.2018
08:45:49
Do you guys use a mail calendar application on your system? Anything you would recommend over evolution? Currently using geary
I used to use Evolution. From time to time I try Kontact, but Kmail always manages to mess things up and it's rather complicated to configure.

#hd_scania
18.01.2018
08:46:45
it's half unfree, LibreJS supports half of yandex services, for example
I need libre-only ones which only Tuta.io, OpenMailBox, ProtonMail are matched for my this requirement.

Daniel
18.01.2018
08:48:05
I'm using Protonmail too for my main mail

Mikhail
18.01.2018
08:49:26
However Wikipedia still declares Yandex mail to be nonfree.?
well, as the any mail service in the world, Tutanota/Protonmail is nonfree too, Tutanota is open-source but not free software, and Protonmail is half proprietary

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Daniel
18.01.2018
08:50:04
For everything else, I just prefer outlook over gmail... Can't forget the days when arguing about cars with my girlfriend over Google Talk would make show me Divorce Express 24h ads on Gmail and google...

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
08:50:28
I feel like free needs quotes around it nowadays. No one can get a wrap on what's "free" and what's not "free"

Kohane
18.01.2018
08:50:33
And I've already spent an hour trying to fix it
Why don't you delete your Evolution config and user folder and start over? I do that when any of those calendar/mail things go wrong.

Daniel
18.01.2018
08:51:27
LOL
And when talking about cars with a friend, ads about car parts...

That kind of things are a big no-no for me

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
08:52:11
I would find it super convenient ?

Daniel
18.01.2018
08:52:42
It depends on the point of view you apply ?

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Kohane
18.01.2018
08:54:39
Well, I use addblocks so I don't get annoyed by unwanted adds.

Daniel
18.01.2018
08:54:41
That's a bit disturbing... ?
NAAAAHH... Paranoid you are...

Kohane
18.01.2018
08:56:04
"Only the paranoids survive" ?

Mikhail
18.01.2018
08:56:27
anyway, did you know that RMS is dangerous hacker and GIMP is illegal tool?

I found a very funny news report from 90's

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
08:57:04
"Only the paranoids survive" ?
Unless they're all snuffed out by the source of their paranoia ? If these orgs really are so bad, I'm sure they'd have no conflict doing that.

Tobias?
18.01.2018
08:57:40
Mikhail
18.01.2018
08:58:43
I'm very worried ?
It was about some hacker who has hacked some american bank, and he also was GNU supporter or something like that. And stupid journalists just didn't get correct information about Stallman and calls him a dangerous hacker and pirate who uses GIMP for his hacking needs

Daniel
18.01.2018
09:01:37
anyway, did you know that RMS is dangerous hacker and GIMP is illegal tool?
It's normal that GIMP was illegal... At least until it had single window option, now its ok ?

Kohane
18.01.2018
09:01:44
anyway, did you know that RMS is dangerous hacker and GIMP is illegal tool?
Of course he's dangerous. He gives talks in barefoot! ? Does the report says why Gimp is illegal?

Mikhail
18.01.2018
09:02:46
they just show a screenshot of GIMP and said that it's hacking program

Kohane
18.01.2018
09:02:55
because GIMP is hacking tool
Really? I thought it was for retouching photos...

Le Schyken
18.01.2018
09:03:01
It's normal that GIMP was illegal... At least until it had single window option, now its ok ?
Praise the sun that single window mode is an option. I would not be able to handle it otherwise ?

Daniel
18.01.2018
09:04:29
Hacker hacks bank -> hacker uses GNU -> the first thing they find about GNU is a photo of GIMP -> GIMP is a hacker tool

Now they sell that Trump invented "Fake News"... Blah ?

Mikhail
18.01.2018
09:09:19
They said that Stallman is radical anti-propriety maniac who hacks paid programs through GIMP and sends it through internet

Kohane
18.01.2018
09:10:04
It was about some hacker who has hacked some american bank, and he also was GNU supporter or something like that. And stupid journalists just didn't get correct information about Stallman and calls him a dangerous hacker and pirate who uses GIMP for his hacking needs
Many times they didn't want to get the correct information. They were just creating FUD to keep people away from open source. I saw Linux being labelled as "communist". Whatever that means for them.

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