Not exactly that, but I found it. Thank you!

Oh great

Ah, all the screenshots are in Spanish,

Ah, all the screenshots are in Spanish,

Do you understand as an USA citizen?

I'm not a USA citizen....

Ah, all the screenshots are in Spanish,

Yup, I asked some guys

I'm from Argentina

Ah, okay.

I'm not a USA citizen....

R u ilegal? Hahaha where are you from?

I never been in USA!

I'm in Germany.

Nice!

In Germany a lot or people speaks English.

Yeah, that's true. Although it depends on areas and cities.

At the very least, they make an effort to understand you ?

In Germany a lot or people speaks English.

there are alot of International Schools, in Germany, afaik

English is taught in primary AFAIK and if you go to university they usually offer languages courses, not only English but others that may interest their students, like Spanish, French or Turkish.

Spanish is quite popular actually.

Spanish is popular? That surprises me. Turkish is obvious because of turkish people that migrated there

Because for a German speaker is easier to learn Spanish than to learn French or English, and it makes sense as it's the second popular language online.

The other way around is also true. It's easier to learn German if you're a Spanish speaker than if you're an English or a French speaker.

Particularly with English. If you're a German speaker, English is too bare and simple; and if you're an English speaker it will drive you insane the seemingly complexity of German.

The other way around is also true. It's easier to learn German if you're a Spanish speaker than if you're an English or a French speaker.

I never tried but sometimes I hear words which are the same for Spanish and the way of speaking sounds a little bit like Italian to me.

The problem I think are dialects in German.

I never tried but sometimes I hear words which are the same for Spanish and the way of speaking sounds a little bit like Italian to me.

Yes, true. Well, Italian and Spanish share roots so it makes sense that some words are similar.

Particularly with English. If you're a German speaker, English is too bare and simple; and if you're an English speaker it will drive you insane the seemingly complexity of German.

But how complex German will be?

The problem I think are dialects in German.

Tell me about it! I live in the south. And German here can be so different that it takes you a long while to get used. Mainly the way it is pronounced.

But how complex German will be?

No more than Spanish or French TBH.

Spanish is so annoying to learn IMO

Tell me about it! I live in the south. And German here can be so different that it takes you a long while to get used. Mainly the way it is pronounced.

I live in northern Germany and I feel like the people in the south almost speak a different language :D

Last year in OpenRheinRuhr I remember someone commenting "That damned accent... I can't understand what they say." referring to someone coming from Stuttgart.

No more than Spanish or French TBH.

Disagree as try to learn both of them. Spanish is way easier. But if someone speak english, it will be easier for him to learn German than it would be without speaking English.

The problem is that people don't get that if you are not using the proper phonemes you are doing it wrong. Lots or people write in English but not as much can speak it.

Now it's me who's getting the damned accent ?

The problem I think are dialects in German.

the same thing happens with the Italian language, dialects. The "italian" we speak in Bergamo has alot of different pronounces to the "italian" that people that lives in Brescia or Milan, and it's almost the same with every city here

I live in northern Germany and I feel like the people in the south almost speak a different language :D

Hahaha

Yes, in Spanish happens that but is more like country from country

I live in northern Germany and I feel like the people in the south almost speak a different language :D

I know! When I just came I was like "Uh??". I was living in Frankfurt and got used to their accent. Plus that thing when you buy something and they say "Alles?" (All?) and I was "No, I don't want everything". Until I realised they were dropping half of the sentence ? They mean "Is this all?"

I know! When I just came I was like "Uh??". I was living in Frankfurt and got used to their accent. Plus that thing when you buy something and they say "Alles?" (All?) and I was "No, I don't want everything". Until I realised they were dropping half of the sentence ? They mean "Is this all?"

Lol

Yes, in Spanish happens that but is more like country from country

But it's not that wide the difference. I can understand without problems someone from Colombia or Mexico, or most of areas in Spain.

I know! When I just came I was like "Uh??". I was living in Frankfurt and got used to their accent. Plus that thing when you buy something and they say "Alles?" (All?) and I was "No, I don't want everything". Until I realised they were dropping half of the sentence ? They mean "Is this all?"

Huh, it's a Russian (and maybe other slav langs) way to say "is this all" btw :)

Huh, it's a Russian (and maybe other slav langs) way to say "is this all" btw :)

So maybe they are Russians! That explains it all. ?

So maybe they are Russians! That explains it all. ?

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But it's not that wide the difference. I can understand without problems someone from Colombia or Mexico, or most of areas in Spain.

Well, yes even in Asia. But Argentina and Uruguay is a little bit different. Is more ancient like Sefardies Jews in Turkey that speak Ancient Spanish.

Yes Spanish, Portuguese, Italian scripts are always sharing the most elements, which both nations are on the south of the Europe.

Disagree as try to learn both of them. Spanish is way easier. But if someone speak english, it will be easier for him to learn German than it would be without speaking English.

No, trust me. It's hell. And English speakers rarely can cope with the language. Only those who lived in Germany or worked with/for Germans for a long time.

the same thing happens with the Italian language, dialects. The "italian" we speak in Bergamo has alot of different pronounces to the "italian" that people that lives in Brescia or Milan, and it's almost the same with every city here

I remember meeting someone from Sardinia (at Fedora Flock 2017, actually) and how different his dialect was from every other Italian I've met. He also brought a bunch of local, yummy sweets along with him too. ?

I find German a lot harder than spanish

No, trust me. It's hell. And English speakers rarely can cope with the language. Only those who lived in Germany or worked with/for Germans for a long time.

I know its hell, as other languages. But Spanish is even easier than english. Yes, it has difficulties, but still. I just evaluating as a guy, who compares for himself learning foreign languages.

Well, yes even in Asia. But Argentina and Uruguay is a little bit different. Is more ancient like Sefardies Jews in Turkey that speak Ancient Spanish.

Yeah, I know. But you still understand the words. Not always the meaning, but you understand the words.

English, Italian and Spanish are very easy imo

Are there people getting difficulties studying Norse languages or French, as an Enligsh speaker?

English, Italian and Spanish are very easy imo

basic italian is easy, but everyday italian is much harder

Are there people getting difficulties studying Norse languages or French, as an Enligsh speaker?

I was learning traditional Norwegian for a time, but… phew. I didn't go that far along with it.

Are there people getting difficulties studying Norse languages or French, as an Enligsh speaker?

Most of them are germanic, so they must be as difficult (or a bit less), than German in this case.

I know its hell, as other languages. But Spanish is even easier than english. Yes, it has difficulties, but still. I just evaluating as a guy, who compares for himself learning foreign languages.

No. You misunderstood. Normally I don't have a problem learning languages. And if I set my mind to Spanish, I can progress quicker that if I fall in my default (English).

I think I've spent more time with Albanian now than I did Norwegian

Albanian is its own completely, lolol

basic italian is easy, but everyday italian is much harder

Maybe, but I spoke Italian all the time while I was in Rome, easy

No. You misunderstood. Normally I don't have a problem learning languages. And if I set my mind to Spanish, I can progress quicker that if I fall in my default (English).

I don't understand the point then. Could you explain what did you exactly mean?

Albanian is its own completely, lolol

Hahaha yeah

I think I've spent more time with Albanian now than I did Norwegian

I learnt Swedish loooooong ago. I didn't find it particularly complicated.

I learnt Swedish loooooong ago. I didn't find it particularly complicated.

Maybe I didn't get far along with my Norwegian to the point where it began to click

Maybe, but I spoke Italian all the time while I was in Rome, easy

And I mean the BnB owner said I spoke italian better than 90% of the Italians he knew

Albanian is its own completely, lolol

Is it difficult for you? Albanian language.

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Is it difficult for you? Albanian language.

Written, I find it easier, but I haven't had a chance to practice spoken in a long time

Maybe I need to go and visit Albania again soon ?

Maybe I need to go and visit Albania again soon ?

OSCAL is near ?

OSCAL is near ?

Hahah, yeah, and I think I'll make it out too ?

It's placed in the only time of the year when I could possibly make it

I don't understand the point then. Could you explain what did you exactly mean?

I had bilingual education. Plus other languages I learnt over time. Usually I think in English. When I was trying to learn German with my mind in English, it drove me insane because German has a completely different grammar and uses different words for things that is only one or two in English. Plus verbs change while in English they seldom do. OTOH thinking in Spanish while learning German eases a lot the process. There are still some oddities but the grammar is more similar and you don't get surprised at the differences (like the verbs changing) because they exist in Spanish too.

My point is.... each language has it features. But when it comes to German, is easier learning if you're a Spanish speaker than if you're an English speaker. English is very simple and pronouncing things is completey different from German. In Spanish and in German letters are pronounce as you they are written, except a few exceptions, and you don't skip letters. While in English what is written and pronounce is different, often without following any obvious rule, and letters are often skipped. French is even worse. You write a 10 letters word and pronounce 2 or 3 sounds.

Spanish is so annoying to learn IMO

Why is it annoying?

I had bilingual education. Plus other languages I learnt over time. Usually I think in English. When I was trying to learn German with my mind in English, it drove me insane because German has a completely different grammar and uses different words for things that is only one or two in English. Plus verbs change while in English they seldom do. OTOH thinking in Spanish while learning German eases a lot the process. There are still some oddities but the grammar is more similar and you don't get surprised at the differences (like the verbs changing) because they exist in Spanish too.

Now I got you. » because German has a completely different grammar and uses different words for things that is only one or two in English. But it's not completely true... lots of the same words but a bit different pronounciation and sometimes a bit different spelling, common grammar in the way of using tenses... Unlike spanish with romance roots of words, German has germanic roots. Yes, the Germanic words in english is a minority, but still, there are lots of them. But everyone have his own experience, so I won't argue any further :)

The problem is that people don't get that if you are not using the proper phonemes you are doing it wrong. Lots or people write in English but not as much can speak it.

Absolutely true.

About an experience: I know some russian people, who speak english and learn german or vice-versa. Half of them say that it helps for a language to know another one (I'm on this half), half of them say that another language is only delays remembering of another one.

Nobody thinks in a particular language

Thoughts are language-less

Thoughts are language-less

Nope. One of important things in learning languages (to be advanced or fluent) is to learn how to think in a new language. It's important for a fluent speaking and "feeling" of a language.

Nobody thinks in a particular language

Yes and no.

Nope. One of important things in learning languages (to be advanced or fluent) is to learn how to think in a new language. It's important for a fluent speaking and "feeling" of a language.

Scientific evidence disqualifies your opinion.

Scientific evidence disqualifies your opinion.

Can you share them with us?

There's no provable influences on thoughts

Nope. One of important things in learning languages (to be advanced or fluent) is to learn how to think in a new language. It's important for a fluent speaking and "feeling" of a language.

Yes. Like when you see an apple and learning Spanish. And you don't think Apple=Manzana, you just see the fruit and think "Manzana". Or when you read a signal and it doesn't take you some seconds while you're translating from what is written to the language you have in your mind.

Why is it annoying?

Because one can conjugate verbs to so many forms, many of which are really irregular and/or many multiple different meanings

There's no provable influences on thoughts

Do you mind to send a link or references of any kind? This goes against everything I've read in my life. And everyone's experience

Yes. Like when you see an apple and learning Spanish. And you don't think Apple=Manzana, you just see the fruit and think "Manzana". Or when you read a signal and it doesn't take you some seconds while you're translating from what is written to the language you have in your mind.

Yup. It's actually one of the issues of an education in some schools (in my country): they teach to translate, so after them people have difficulties. Because they always translate.

Because one can conjugate verbs to so many forms, many of which are really irregular and/or many multiple different meanings

Oh. Yeah, that's right.

Do you mind to send a link or references of any kind? This goes against everything I've read in my life. And everyone's experience

Speaking on behalf of everyone doesn't seem very wise

Speaking on behalf of everyone doesn't seem very wise

It isn't wise to say something without giving links or resources to support it. Particularly when you're stating that it's a scientific fact.

Yup. It's actually one of the issues of an education in some schools (in my country): they teach to translate, so after them people have difficulties. Because they always translate.

Yeah, I know that, I've seen it before.

It isn't wise to say something without giving links or resources to support it. Particularly when you're stating that it's a scientific fact.

Maybe in the old times. Nowadays there's Google.

Right.

Maybe in the old times. Nowadays there's Google.

And you believe in everything that internet tells you, right?

I'm still waiting for your Google sources to support your claim

And you believe in everything that internet tells you, right?

No