I wonder where are now all the people that generally bash on fedora for taking the time to fixing critical bugs

Eh? Do people bash others for fixing critical bugs?

I wonder where are now all the people that generally bash on fedora for taking the time to fixing critical bugs

It's time for the Canonical haters to come out of their shells. It's a balance ?

I wonder where are now all the people that generally bash on fedora for taking the time to fixing critical bugs

They are still thinking that its FC18 now and they use Windows.

Eh? Do people bash others for fixing critical bugs?

Yup, not only in a linux society.

You or someone else already asked this. No, it's not distro agnostic. It's an Ubuntu issue.

Yep, thanks.

It's time for the Canonical haters to come out of their shells. It's a balance ?

One doesn't have to be a canonical hater to notice the absence of QA testing. Esp on Lenovo hardware, given Lenovo is a corporate sponsor to canonical.

One doesn't have to be a canonical hater to notice the absence of QA testing. Esp on Lenovo hardware, given Lenovo is a corporate sponsor to canonical.

I didn't say they did. But that doesn't stop them from popping up. :)

Eh? Do people bash others for fixing critical bugs?

Fedora haters do, unfortunately. I've even seen posts on omg ubuntu, saying that Ubuntu with 17.10 is going to steal away Fedora users...

I didn't say they did. But that doesn't stop them from popping up. :)

I agree, but their comments in this case are justified...

I agree, but their comments in this case are justified...

Not entirely. Just the correct ones. I've seen some crazy ones about, that are mostly just people completely misunderstanding the situation.

But granted, that always happens no matter the subject

Fedora haters do, unfortunately. I've even seen posts on omg ubuntu, saying that Ubuntu with 17.10 is going to steal away Fedora users...

I always found those ones funny tbh.

I always found those ones funny tbh.

Yeah, more so given this news..

But granted, that always happens no matter the subject

True...

Idk, 17.10 was cool IMHO, but it really wasn't something I felt was game-changing in terms of the attention it got, especially in contrast to its effective implementation and use. And this of course does stain it pretty hard.

Eg, it's pretty easy for me to get a basic understanding of what someone is saying in Portuguese because I speak Spanish, and furthermore, I have better luck with Italian and French, as mentioned above.

Portuguese is a no-brainer for a Spanish speaker, as it's pretty much like the old form of Spanish. But Italian and French aren't that similar. And Romanian is Latin/Romance but it's hardly understandable for other Latin/Romance languages speakers. I can understand many languages, but that's because I've been exposed to them (French comics, Italian family, etc). Most of my countrymen won't understand if they didn't learn it somewhere. It is true that they share words in common. It's also true that pronouncing stuff in French will distort them and make them sound too different to the written form.

Idk, 17.10 was cool IMHO, but it really wasn't something I felt was game-changing in terms of the attention it got, especially in contrast to its effective implementation and use. And this of course does stain it pretty hard.

It was ironically, the most tested Ubuntu release in recent years, and yet this happens...

Portuguese is a no-brainer for a Spanish speaker, as it's pretty much like the old form of Spanish. But Italian and French aren't that similar. And Romanian is Latin/Romance but it's hardly understandable for other Latin/Romance languages speakers. I can understand many languages, but that's because I've been exposed to them (French comics, Italian family, etc). Most of my countrymen won't understand if they didn't learn it somewhere. It is true that they share words in common. It's also true that pronouncing stuff in French will distort them and make them sound too different to the written form.

Romanian absolutely kills me tbh ?

Eh? Do people bash others for fixing critical bugs?

Well generally fedora takes all the time needed to fix bugs when a new release is due to go online, and lots of people on the web are complaining for the fact fedora is unable to respect the schedule and the time limit they had set for the new release...of course they are not fedora users...

Personally I find easier to learn German than French. At least I know how to pronounce correctly. ?

Portuguese is a no-brainer for a Spanish speaker, as it's pretty much like the old form of Spanish. But Italian and French aren't that similar. And Romanian is Latin/Romance but it's hardly understandable for other Latin/Romance languages speakers. I can understand many languages, but that's because I've been exposed to them (French comics, Italian family, etc). Most of my countrymen won't understand if they didn't learn it somewhere. It is true that they share words in common. It's also true that pronouncing stuff in French will distort them and make them sound too different to the written form.

About Italian and French: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrlycViTavE

Well generally fedora takes all the time needed to fix bugs when a new release is due to go online, and lots of people on the web are complaining for the fact fedora is unable to respect the schedule and the time limit they had set for the new release...of course they are not fedora users...

Zigackly.

About Italian and French: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrlycViTavE

I'm not saying they aren't similar. They share the same roots. I'm saying that they aren't that obvious to understand for someone who never been exposed to them.

Yeah, German has almost straightforward pronounciation, compairing to other languages.

Yeah, German has almost straightforward pronounciation, compairing to other languages.

Many things in German are very nearly English, yet others completely different ?

I'm not saying they aren't similar. They share the same roots. I'm saying that they aren't that obvious to understand for someone who never been exposed to them.

In speech, but easier in writing. Anyways, the video is still quite enjoyable, so I would recommend it and his channel anyway :)

Yeah, German has almost straightforward pronounciation, compairing to other languages.

Many Germans told me they prefer to learn Spanish rather than French, because French pronunciation always put them off.

It was ironically, the most tested Ubuntu release in recent years, and yet this happens...

Well i read somewhere (probably on omgubuntu) that canonical wanted to respect the release date so they released the same and they would have done bugfixing later,

Many things in German are very nearly English, yet others completely different ?

True.

Well i read somewhere (probably on omgubuntu) that canonical wanted to respect the release date so they released the same and they would have done bugfixing later,

Oh, that is very very bad policy, if it is wat happened.

And if you speak both English and German, you don't really have to learn Dutch or nordic languages (maybe, a little bit) to understand something.

Well i read somewhere (probably on omgubuntu) that canonical wanted to respect the release date so they released the same and they would have done bugfixing later,

Meh... I prefer Fedora & Debian approach: "It's released when it's ready".

Meh... I prefer Fedora & Debian approach: "It's released when it's ready".

Yup, me too, since I switched to Fedora... It's also the Linux mint way :)

Meh... I prefer Fedora & Debian approach: "It's released when it's ready".

That's exactly my point and one of the reasons i choose fedora

So, yeah, speaking about the idea: of course you will have to learn at least something in other languages, but not too much: basic constructions, finding similarities, some verbs and pronouns. Other stuff can be understandable, or will bring a new pidgin language (:

And if you speak both English and German, you don't really have to learn Dutch or nordic languages (maybe, a little bit) to understand something.

I spent some days in Amsterdam without further issues because: 1) Dutch speak a very good English 2) Combining English and German you get the idea from what is written on shops and signals

People complain for a two weeks delay but fedora 27 was fixed and polished like a new distro should be

People complain for a two weeks delay but fedora 27 was fixed and polished like a new distro should be

Yup.

I spent some days in Amsterdam without further issues because: 1) Dutch speak a very good English 2) Combining English and German you get the idea from what is written on shops and signals

Cool, unlike germans and austrien people, who almost don't :D

And canonical even said they were proud of this release despite some bugs left (due to the schedule they wanted to respect)

And canonical even said they were proud of this release despite some bugs left (due to the schedule they wanted to respect)

Meh, what Mark says doesn't stand for much. He changes his mind so much.

Now, i don't need to be a canonical hater to know that fedora's way is the way to go

Now, i don't need to be a canonical hater to know that fedora's way is the way to go

I'm just happy no other Linux distros are affected, tbfh...

Meh, what Mark says doesn't stand for much. He changes his mind so much.

I remember when he said "android?no, there's ubuntu touch now, android will soon be forgotten"

I remember when he said "android?no, there's ubuntu touch now, android will soon be forgotten"

No matter that part of a code base was taken from Android.

The ironic thing is, people bash us, Fedora users, who tell people of canonical's practices, saying we are anti- canonical...

And when he said that sailfish was not a serious competitor...

No matter that part of a code base was taken from Android.

No matter he made ubuntu for Android a year before that.

Now we saifish users are waiting for the next update while ubuntu touch is dead (which is a shame anyway)

The ironic thing is, people bash us, Fedora users, who tell people of canonical's practices, saying we are anti- canonical...

Agreed

Cool, unlike germans and austrien people, who almost don't :D

That depends on where you're standing. In Stuttgart and Frankfurt everyone speak English. In my town, most of them understand enough, but just that. And foreigners often only speak their native language and German, which is always surprising to me. Besides German and Asutrians often speak something that tries to be English but rather sounds like an odd German. OTOH, British seldom speak or understand German, and when they do it sounds horrible.

Now we saifish users are waiting for the next update while ubuntu touch is dead (which is a shame anyway)

I'm looking forward to Purism, tbfh, have been since they announced their tablet. It's open sauce on phones and 2-in-1s, sans mark...

About Italian and French: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrlycViTavE

And by the way...italian and french are completely different but i must admit some local dialect really resembles french :p

I'm looking forward to Purism, tbfh, have been since they announced their tablet. It's open sauce on phones and 2-in-1s, sans mark...

Too expensive for me, but i really like the project...

That depends on where you're standing. In Stuttgart and Frankfurt everyone speak English. In my town, most of them understand enough, but just that. And foreigners often only speak their native language and German, which is always surprising to me. Besides German and Asutrians often speak something that tries to be English but rather sounds like an odd German. OTOH, British seldom speak or understand German, and when they do it sounds horrible.

In Vienn (idk how to spell that) it was difficult to find an english speaker.

Yeah, I remember that.

Wien. Vienna.

Wien and russian version is all i remembered.

To me Wien means: 1) Schnitzels! ❤️ 2) History and classic music.

To me Wien means: 1) Schnitzels! ❤️ 2) History and classic music.

Excuse this Indian, but what are schnitzels? Edibles?

Marzepan, Zacher, Mozart

Excuse this Indian, but what are schnitzels? Edibles?

Its kind of a pie (wrong)

Nooo

Marzepan, Zacher, Mozart

Marzepan is all over Germany. I don't associate it with Wien.

No! It's not a pie!

Excuse this Indian, but what are schnitzels? Edibles?

It's edible. It's like a breaded or covered filet. Let me show you.

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It's edible. It's like a breaded or covered filet. Let me show you.

Oh okkk

In South America is called "milanesa".

No! It's not a pie!

Mixed up with a strudel XD

Strudel ❤️

Moreover...

Apfelstrudel

❤️ ❤️ ❤️

Here I am, in this corner, with no idea what any of those words mean...???... But they do make me a bit hungry, those words...

https://shop.eismann.de/upload/product-detail-theme/wiener-schnitzel-vom-schwein-8697-K.jpg

https://shop.eismann.de/upload/product-detail-theme/wiener-schnitzel-vom-schwein-8697-K.jpg

Seems like aloo paties to me

It's edible. It's like a breaded or covered filet. Let me show you.

Classic italian cotoletta :p tastes really good :)

?

https://shop.eismann.de/upload/product-detail-theme/wiener-schnitzel-vom-schwein-8697-K.jpg

Looks yummy!!! What is it made of? Meat?

https://shop.eismann.de/upload/product-detail-theme/wiener-schnitzel-vom-schwein-8697-K.jpg

Chicken patties :3

There's meat inside. It can be pork, cow, fish or anything else. There are even vegetarian versions.

There's meat inside. It can be pork, cow, fish or anything else. There are even vegetarian versions.

Aights

You can do the same with pieces of cheese and it's awesome.

In South America is called "milanesa".

That's because is the tipical food of milan :)

My flatmate used to buy them in summer.

You can do the same with pieces of cheese and it's awesome.

???

Classic italian cotoletta :p tastes really good :)

Cotoletta... does it have a bone?

Well yes and no

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The one without is called cotoletta while the one with a bone is called with another name but i can't recall it right now

That's because is the tipical food of milan :)

I suppose. When I discovered that my beloved milanesas where schnitzel I thought "I'm in the right place to live". British don't know them. It's so weird. They don't have schnitzels/milanesas...

Maybe costoletta

I suppose. When I discovered that my beloved milanesas where schnitzel I thought "I'm in the right place to live". British don't know them. It's so weird. They don't have schnitzels/milanesas...

Ahahan yeah well i agree :p

The one without is called cotoletta while the one with a bone is called with another name but i can't recall it right now

Ah, okay. False friend then. Cotoletta sounded like "costilla" (rib in Spanish), so I assumed it had a bone.

Yeah the one with a bone it's the rib probably

There's a Japanese dish that is basically a deep fried schnitzel, but it's made with a pork rib including the bone. I think some areas in Spain have something similar too...