Yes?

only legacy tray icons work

so i guess gnome is axing the tray

yeah apps that use native gnome notifications dont work

But I have Telegram configured not to use the native notifications.

It uses its own.

But I have Telegram configured not to use the native notifications.

yeah but even then

Doh....

Doh....

Some notable apps that still use a system tray icon are Slack, Discord, Steam, Skype, Mumble, and Dropbox.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/09/will-you-miss-gnome-legacy-tray

apparently ubuntu axed their tray in unity as well long ago

Meh...

I was getting used to Gnome but with this...

That's why GNOME is not the best

Haha

Heh, yeah.

Devs don't listen to users

actually as a user i didnt like the tray

They do whatever they think it's better

especially on ubuntu

Xfce or cinnamon forever

all my music applications, slack, telegram, discord, ......

all cluttering up the top bar

i do think there should be a better indicator of when you have a notification

Xfce or cinnamon forever

Haha, yeah. I guess I'll make a USB stick with XFCE for the next version and install it. KDE & XFCE live fine together, it's Gnome & XFCE or Gnome & Cinnamon what mess configurations.

all my music applications, slack, telegram, discord, ......

Well, I don't have that much stuff. And in any case I prefer it grouped in the bar rather than having all the windows open.

Well, I don't have that much stuff. And in any case I prefer it grouped in the bar rather than having all the windows open.

again there is a notification area

you dont have to have windows open

Yeah, but I have to click on the clock to see if there are any and what is it. With the other system I see what and where at glance.

I have to because it's a mess to reply a message!

honestly i hope Yunit takes off

unity was nice when we had it

another info...

Veracrypt ask me admin password

but not accept password....

when i try to mount volume

Then maybe is an issue between Gnome and Telegram?

i don't have topicons installed now but telegram was working for me...

there was an option to have telegram on the system tray, but i guess they removed it in linux

i don't have topicons installed now but telegram was working for me...

telegram in your tray?

because in windows is still there

telegram in your tray?

well when gnome had a tray

but i suppose telegram removed that icon in linux

well when gnome had a tray

yeah gnome 3.26+ has no tray

there was an option to have telegram on the system tray, but i guess they removed it in linux

Telegram can still run in the tray, I've had to disable my tray on i3wm

but the option was something like "show telegram on the system tray" but now is not there anymore

almost on linux

Telegram can still run in the tray, I've had to disable my tray on i3wm

well the only thing i can think of is that they removed it in gnome

because i checked with other people using gnome and windows and only windows one have that option

It's forced on, I had to disable my tray entirely because it ruined the aesthetic

do xfce and gnome really have problems when installed together

there was an option to have telegram on the system tray, but i guess they removed it in linux

I only use Linux and Telegram is there. It’s a Gnome issue, not Linux issue.

I only use Linux and Telegram is there. It’s a Gnome issue, not Linux issue.

surely...

but i suppose telegram removed that icon in linux

No, in Linux it’s working. It’s an issue with Gnome Shell.

No, in Linux it’s working. It’s an issue with Gnome Shell.

so they removed that option in gnome shell?

well i can't blame them

do xfce and gnome really have problems when installed together

Yes, I tried. Cinnamon and Gnome used to have too, but I don’t know now.

works for me

though i just installed it

because i checked with other people using gnome and windows and only windows one have that option

Right. But there are other desktops in Linux besides Gnome.

though i just installed it

Then maybe I did something wrong, or missed a package to install.

Right. But there are other desktops in Linux besides Gnome.

yes but at the time i asked i was talking with just people using windows and gnome

oh okay

in fedora cinnamon, telegram is present in the tray

have you heard about "fedy" package installer? I had issues with telegram as well but since i used fedy to install telegram, it works perfectly

have you heard about "fedy" package installer? I had issues with telegram as well but since i used fedy to install telegram, it works perfectly

I've heard about it and not exactly good things.

ERROR: S client not available

Do not use Fedy

Ever

in fedora cinnamon, telegram is present in the tray

Because they do have a system tray and a normal notification area. Gnome hides the notifications in odd places and the system tray has been axed.

But now I understand why Dnfdragora was constantly crashing in Gnome.

http://www.ocsmag.com/2015/06/22/you-can-leave-your-fedora-on/ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-24-pimp-more.html fedy is recommended by "Dedoimedo" and usually what he recommends is usually worthwhile to have. I didn't read anything bad about it

It's from 2015

yes and i didn't find better alternative to it

But why use that when you can install them yourself

And in a safer way

Don't have much time to spend in figuring out what/where/how)))

everytime you update your linux, you have to fix 10 things which used to work before update and then if they don't work, you switch/find new distro and then spend additional time in figuring out how to install usual packages which could have been out of box

selinux alert me of this

SELinux is preventing gsf-office-thum from map access on the file /tmp/gnome-desktop-file-to-thumbnail.docx. * Plugin catchall (100. confidence) suggests **********************

what's is this ?

have you heard about "fedy" package installer? I had issues with telegram as well but since i used fedy to install telegram, it works perfectly

There is really no need to use fedy ?

i have just looked for reviews on fedy but didn't find any good reason for not using fedy. Can you give me some link for it explaining why not to use it?

But now I understand why Dnfdragora was constantly crashing in Gnome.

trying out xfce

is there any way to give the panel menus proper padding

everytime you update your linux, you have to fix 10 things which used to work before update and then if they don't work, you switch/find new distro and then spend additional time in figuring out how to install usual packages which could have been out of box

Eh? Are you sure you're using Fedora? Moreover, are you sure you're using Linux at all? Because it doesn't sounds like it.

is there any way to give the panel menus proper padding

Like spaces between items? You can add them in the configuration. Panel => Add items.

Like spaces between items? You can add them in the configuration. Panel => Add items.

no

like the application menu options

there is no padding on either side of the text

or between the text and the icons

yeah i dont seem to be able to get xfce anywhere near to consistent

applications have nicely padded menus, but the desktop doesnt

Eh? Are you sure you're using Fedora? Moreover, are you sure you're using Linux at all? Because it doesn't sounds like it.

yes, using linux. earlier was using ubuntu but after its latest update had issues with network card, then switched to fedora. initially to stock version and then to cinnamon. Out of box fedora doesn't have half the required packages so found fedy to fix it. Now you guys are saying don't use fedy and i am asking please give a reason why not?

and icon sizes are inconsistent between panel items

lemme try cinnamon next

That's the theme, change it