polyduekes
also try ssh like i previously suggested
Abhi
Poly, people of the Internet told me it's the wayland doing bad stuff. I wonder why i couldn't change tty
polyduekes
It happened on xorg too, i have switched to wayland now. So can't be that.
but you said this.....
Abhi
Remember when i wiped my rc.conf, i came to ask the same thing i was on xorg. So true its not those
Abhi
Tracing Bugs Across Kernels: SMB Vulnerabilities in macOS and FreeBSD
https://github.com/wangtielei/Slides/blob/main/SMB_Vulnerability_Analysis.md
harmony5 🇺🇳 ⌤
polyduekes
Hi. Did you make any progess on this？
yup, it was a missing MAP_32BIT flag in a memory block reserve function so the reserve was being created with 64 bit pointers
polyduekes
yup, it was a missing MAP_32BIT flag in a memory block reserve function so the reserve was being created with 64 bit pointers
https://github.com/BlitterStudio/amiberry/pull/1696
this is what made jit work
harmony5 🇺🇳 ⌤
Abhi
What are you gonna use this for ?
Abhi
Very cool
harmony5 🇺🇳 ⌤
Someone was asking about laptops some time ago. I think this will be useful, too: https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/blob/main/supported%2Flaptops.md
polyduekes
https://it-notes.dragas.net/2025/07/29/make-your-own-backup-system-part-2-forging-the-freebsd-backup-stronghold/
bittin-
https://www.bsdnow.tv/622
Mahdi
Hello friends, I'm currently analyzing FreeBSD and at the same time working on improving my programming skills. I've chosen the FreeBSD project out of personal interest. Right now, I'm analyzing libc, and I've studied and compared the strlen and strnlen functions in order to implement them in my own operating system. strlen is architecture-dependent, and is split into 32-bit and 64-bit versions for systems like x86_64 and x86. It has a relatively complex structure and performs word-by-word scanning. In contrast, strnlen is implemented in an extremely basic and simple way. It is neither optimized nor fast — its only standout feature is safety. I wanted to ask: Why wasn't strlen implemented like strnlen? Is it because you can’t impose a length limit like maxlen when scanning word-by-word? Meaning, since strlen uses word-by-word checking, is it technically not possible to implement a size constraint like maxlen?
Mahdi
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TheWhyteCrow
Hello friends, I'm currently analyzing FreeBSD and at the same time working on improving my programming skills. I've chosen the FreeBSD project out of personal interest. Right now, I'm analyzing libc, and I've studied and compared the strlen and strnlen functions in order to implement them in my own operating system. strlen is architecture-dependent, and is split into 32-bit and 64-bit versions for systems like x86_64 and x86. It has a relatively complex structure and performs word-by-word scanning. In contrast, strnlen is implemented in an extremely basic and simple way. It is neither optimized nor fast — its only standout feature is safety. I wanted to ask: Why wasn't strlen implemented like strnlen? Is it because you can’t impose a length limit like maxlen when scanning word-by-word? Meaning, since strlen uses word-by-word checking, is it technically not possible to implement a size constraint like maxlen?
I am not a C dev, just by reading the manuals on FreeBSD and Debian, it seems to be implemented on both platforms similarly, regarding the use of maxlen. The reason should be POSIX (strlen being not fully POSIX-compliant - maybe?)
Abhi
Very cool
Mahdi
Select your text
Marco
Yay sharing
Mahdi
Hello World? No!
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
@Libremann let's not derail the topic of the group, move it to offtopics if you want to continue it
Mahdi
bittin-
https://www.bsdnow.tv/623
Mahdi
Does the FBSD have a specific problem with the touchpad?
I'm buying a laptop to install FBSD on.
Is the problem with FBSD itself or Wayland, xorg, etc.?
Divan
That would heavily depend on which laptop you buy
Pouria
Does the FBSD have a specific problem with the touchpad?
I'm buying a laptop to install FBSD on.
Is the problem with FBSD itself or Wayland, xorg, etc.?
I had an issue with Elantech before, but it has been resolved now.
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Emp. Jasmine
Andrei Drusian
because newer versions of gnome are tied to Linux's systemd.
Abhi
Why are they doing it drusian?
Is there any actual benifits even?
It works currently and works well, what's the point of systemdmaxing in gnome?
Pouria
I still don't understand the whole point of systemd existence. Let alone gnome dependency on systemd.
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
there is a talki about systemd by a fbsd dev at the time called "the tragedy of systemd"
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
I kind of relate to that in a positive way !
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
Artel
systemd is good at solving linux problems, in linux.
primary concern was hyperscalers weren't being satisfied with shell scripting
Abhi
I am using fedora currently, and learning systemd a bit. It's pretty cool. But not needed at all.
Artel
I am using fedora currently, and learning systemd a bit. It's pretty cool. But not needed at all.
Fedora and RHEL is pretty much the best Linux world can offer at the moment
Abhi
Fedora and RHEL is pretty much the best Linux world can offer at the moment
I know right. Rest everything seems like a cope to me.
I have used artix for like 7 years it's a good distro but now i realise at that point using bsd systems is just superior.
Abhi
I am using fedora just because the android-tools port is outdated in the freebsd and i get issues in it.
If someone can teach me how to update that would be very good😊
Abhi
I have read the ports guide on how to do it but I have skill issue currently and just need to get stuff done 😕
Emp. Jasmine
Fedora and RHEL is pretty much the best Linux world can offer at the moment
I'd argue that it's NixOS but Fedora I would put in an easy second. Debian is also really good but newer versions won't boot on my laptop.
Artel
I'd argue that it's NixOS but Fedora I would put in an easy second. Debian is also really good but newer versions won't boot on my laptop.
NixOS is making simple things harder while providing great abstractions over just systemd.
Debian is pointless as end system but good if you're building your solution on top of it
Abhi
Abhi
I'd argue that it's NixOS but Fedora I would put in an easy second. Debian is also really good but newer versions won't boot on my laptop.
Nix os seemed hard for no reason. I rather use gentoo which I did for 2 years 😭
Artel
Debian comunity is too much politics too.
They indulge a lot in things that they dont neccesary have resource for.
Red Hat does have these resources. Debian isn't, being operated by volunteers only
Abhi
They indulge a lot in things that they dont neccesary have resource for.
Red Hat does have these resources. Debian isn't, being operated by volunteers only
100% fedora comunity is much more tolerant towards other perspective is what I observed.
They do still are leftists but they won't ban you if you say you use xlibre for example.
But in the end there should be no politics in tech in my opinion, I do not care personally.
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
100% fedora comunity is much more tolerant towards other perspective is what I observed.
They do still are leftists but they won't ban you if you say you use xlibre for example.
But in the end there should be no politics in tech in my opinion, I do not care personally.
Move the Fedora chat to the offtopic one, thanks
polyduekes
I still don't understand the whole point of systemd existence. Let alone gnome dependency on systemd.
https://redlib.privacyredirect.com/r/archlinux/comments/4lzxs3/why_did_archlinux_embrace_systemd/
this post mentions some fair points in systemd case
Pouria
https://redlib.privacyredirect.com/r/archlinux/comments/4lzxs3/why_did_archlinux_embrace_systemd/
this post mentions some fair points in systemd case
I have my answers to all of these points. But I don't want to start a religious war. So, I stop here.
polyduekes
I have my answers to all of these points. But I don't want to start a religious war. So, I stop here.
not to start off a religious war, i am interested from a technical perspective how else would the problems mentioned there would be solved without the troubles of maintaining init scripts, hop on the offtopic chat in any case, this doesn't fit here
Andreas
https://redlib.privacyredirect.com/r/archlinux/comments/4lzxs3/why_did_archlinux_embrace_systemd/
this post mentions some fair points in systemd case
this page lists the negative sides of it and why you should be wary with such things;
https://start.me/p/Kg8keE/priv-sec
polyduekes
this page lists the negative sides of it and why you should be wary with such things;
https://start.me/p/Kg8keE/priv-sec
i don't have lot's of time so i just took a look at the first one and the post answers it as to why systemd needed to be more then just an init system
Maxim
this page lists the negative sides of it and why you should be wary with such things;
https://start.me/p/Kg8keE/priv-sec
this person should probably learn how to use the apostrophe
Andrei Drusian
Why are they doing it drusian?
Is there any actual benifits even?
It works currently and works well, what's the point of systemdmaxing in gnome?
I don't know, I don't use Linux, much less Gnome.
Arshia
Hey so I had a question so what ever I do free bsd can't recognize my wifi card and it shows it in pciconf and while installing it it used to show it but in ifconfig it's not showing
Arshia
Oh and I use USB theranting for connection and I got tierd of that💔
Arshia
Nobody?
Pouria
sysctl net.wlan.devices ?
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
if that showing with pciconf it shoud be there then
Arshia
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
Andreas
it's in the image