theronard
With X configure,
theronard
And try to use this config with X
theronard
Su
X -configure
Mohammed Alnahdi
Same
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
I'm re-reading the log file you sent
theronard
theronard
Maybe it needs either radeon or ati
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
he has:
vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x3ea0 subvendor=0x17aa subdevice=0x5073
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'WhiskeyLake-U GT2 [UHD Graphics 620]'
class = display
subclass = VGA
vgapci1@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x038000 rev=0xc0 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x1002 device=0x699f subvendor=0x17aa subdevice=0x5073
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]'
device = 'Lexa PRO [Radeon 540/540X/550/550X / RX 540X/550/550X]'
class = display
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
since kld_list is a list, @senior_moe811 try first loading just i915kms and then check
theronard
Cant he just load both and let X decide?
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
Try with radeon
I think no matter the amd/ati-radeon kldload, the system is falling back to vgapci0 first, and that is intel one
theronard
Never done that before so it something i d ask more than suggest
Mohammed Alnahdi
since kld_list is a list, @senior_moe811 try first loading just i915kms and then check
Now i make restart for dumping intel graphic kernel moudel
Mohammed Alnahdi
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
since kld_list is a list, @senior_moe811 try first loading just i915kms and then check
if that works, then append the amdgpu kmod to the list, and check if you can select which driver to use on specific programs. The system will always start with intel, but on 3d demanding software, you could change to the dedicated gpu
theronard
Today i seen another reason not to use X anymore
Mohammed Alnahdi
Mohammed Alnahdi
polyduekes
:/
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
It is not successful plan
interesting... I'm sorry for making you to lose time on that config setting. Stick to intel's kmod for now then
Mohammed Alnahdi
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
Sad part is you have part of the hardware which is not going to be used at all
Mohammed Alnahdi
Mohammed Alnahdi
Sad part is you have part of the hardware which is not going to be used at all
What if compile driver inside freebsd for other OS and config it freebsd
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
What if compile driver inside freebsd for other OS and config it freebsd
Not sure if that will work
polyduekes
linuxulator be like
bittin-
https://www.bsdnow.tv/584
bittin-
https://youtu.be/jZ3mjJZEqs0?t=26198
Anonymous
From Proxmox to FreeBSD: story of a migration : https://www.osnews.com/story/141064/from-proxmox-to-freebsd-story-of-a-migration/
stéphane T
That’s it?
I was expecting something more in-depth with technical details…
Anonymous
is this serious?
Anonymous
You didn't find it because you didn't look properly ; https://it-notes.dragas.net/2024/10/21/from-proxmox-to-freebsd-story-of-a-migration/
stéphane T
Maybe.
Thanks for the link
Sudarshan
That’s it?
I was expecting something more in-depth with technical details…
The choice of OS is never technical
Sudarshan
Faraz
So not purely non-technical—but almost agreed.
Sudarshan
So not purely non-technical—but almost agreed.
Other three factors (non technical):
Brand loyalty
Aesthetic appeal
Social influence
Technical choice would be like, using a RTOS, or a very minimal linux distribution or NetBSD with a custom kernel to run on a watch
Faraz
Right, I just say not everything is non-tech and subjective. Assume you want to utilise something like netgraph, crossbow, or want native netmap support, or need specific type of a stack implementation… then you absolutely shall decide what OS, from what family, and for instance with what features and modules you need (you do of course prefer to go with your favourite, which is indeed subjective, but sometimes you shall consider the trade-off the business goals and technical concerns and requirements put on you.)
Maxim
fair. sometimes I want to use GEOM, but sometimes a mainstream-ish OS is necessary
Faraz
And FreeBSD is not? Disagreed.
Faraz
Even operating systems on top of the illumos kernel are.
Faraz
Everything is a trade-off, I'd say. And choosing an OS is a mix of too many considerations, where the basics are business needs, technical requirements, budget (for development and maintenance,) and market share when workforce is a concern and you cannot risk building a cutting-edge utopia on top of something not everyone can maintain—or let's put it this way, we shall always keep in mind not to overengineer stuff based on our subjective decisions, and the OS being part of a bigger image in our technological stack, I believe as in other stuff we'd either pick or remove from the table, plays a significant role as a technical choice for a technical business.
Faraz
Security considerations and the approach commiters of the project adhere to for providing resolutions to each, SDLC and development policies defined in the upstream, RE-related strategies, support plans, backward compatibility scheme, and so on—still saying it ain't a technical solution as none of these directly discuss hardware/software communication protocols?
Faraz
If so, why would a company like Oxide Computers decide to build an in-house-developed kernel and its debugger from scratch? You know what I'm saying? I mean, I agree with your POV, but also disagree that OS is solely a subjective decision around purely philosophical and taste aspects.
Михаил
hi folks, I've installed freebsd 13.4 today and got network, installed kde5, but cant start X server. I have 2 GPUs and I think this may cause problems.
One which I wanna use is Radeon HD 660M (it uses amdgpu on linux)
and the second is NVIDIA RTX2050, mobile version.
So, due to that, Xorg starts with
(!!) More than one possible primary devices found
(--) PCI: (1@0:0:0) 10de:25ad..... .... ???/65536
(--) PCI: (6@0:0:0) 1002:1681..... .... ???/65536
and the first 2 lines with error are
(II) AMDGPU(0): [KMS] Kernel modesetting enabled.
(EE) AMDGPU(0): [drm] Failed to open DRM device for pci:0000:06:00.0: No such file or directory
This card is specified like that (I did that manually and also got the same from X -configure):
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "amdgpu"
BusId "PCI:6:0:0"
EndSection
while the card is at
vgapci1@pci0:6:0:0: class=0x030000 rev=0x0b ...
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices .....'
device = 'Rembrandt [Radeon 680M]'
class = display
subclass = VGA
can you help with that?
Михаил
like 680m but with something disabled
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
kld_list="amdgpu" is also set in /etc/rc.conf right?
Михаил
sure
Михаил
also it works fine in linux, maybe there are some configs I can steal for this?
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
sure
fine, and the pkg/port https://www.freshports.org/x11-drivers/xf86-video-amdgpu/ is installed too?
Михаил
Михаил
or.. wait, I've installed just "xf86-video-amdgpu', do I have to pick specific repo?
Михаил
seems it's the same repo
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
also it works fine in linux, maybe there are some configs I can steal for this?
well, we had some "similar" case a few weeks ago here, between intel-amd graphics to choose, and we didn't come to a working state
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
or.. wait, I've installed just "xf86-video-amdgpu', do I have to pick specific repo?
just "xf86-video-amdgpu" should work
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
also in my case I need the gpu-firmware-amd-kmod too
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
https://www.freshports.org/graphics/gpu-firmware-amd-kmod/
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
otherwise no X server will start on my side
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
https://www.freshports.org/graphics/gpu-firmware-amd-kmod/
if you know the gpu codename (aka flavor) you may just install the pkg for it, otherwise the main one will install all available flavors and let the system choose the correct one
Михаил
I should have hardware somewhere about '22
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
I should have hardware somewhere about '22
WIkipedia confused me, my bad. Yeah seems like from 2022 and above https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/amd-rembrandt.g1004
Михаил
yes it's in january 2022
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
that one is present in the gpu-firmware port
Михаил
I thought its 'rembrandt'.. okay thanks
Михаил
says it's already installed
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
I thought its 'rembrandt'.. okay thanks
code names are a mess tbh. I have a ryzen 5700 which says it has a vega8 gpu integrated, and the gpu firmware was green-sardine iirc
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
says it's already installed
so, to recap:
- you have the correct packages installed for amd
- you have added the kernel module for amdgpu
- you have specified the PCI port in the xorg config to launch the amd gpu card
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
have you configured the nvidia card by any chance?
Михаил
ah yes I had similar issues on linux, and fixed that by deleting nvidia from system