Flan
What's a good cross platform format for a pendrive that Freebsd supports
Flan
I see fat is no go
Flan
Well vfat
Jay
Krond
VFAT and most systems can RW NTFS.
Flan
Jay
troll 👍
What? zfs exist at least for FreeBSD, Linux, MacOS, NetBSD and Windows. Which platforms do you need?
Flan
it does?
Flan
hell I had trouble installing ext driver on windows, impressive that zfs works on it
Jay
Solaris of course too
Jay
"Supported
operating systems
Sun codebase: OpenSolaris, illumos distributions, OpenIndiana
Oracle ZFS: Solaris
OpenZFS: FreeBSD, Mac OS X Server 10.5 (limited to read-only), NetBSD, Linux via third-party kernel module ("ZFS on Linux")[2] or ZFS-FUSE, OSv"
Flan
I do know that exfat was made for flash memory, IDK how well zfs fits on flash memory
Flan
I suppose it doesn't matter anymore, no flash out there only readis/writes 8k times
Jay
Flan
mmm
Jay
zfs works on usb drives
Jay
try ext2 if you need something smaller
Flan
"exFAT is a file system introduced by Microsoft in 2006 and optimized for flash memory such as USB flash drives and SD cards."
Jay
use exfat then
Flan
but does it work on freebsd? vfat didn't work on it
Flan
if vfat is older than exfat and it doesn't work, then exfat should not work either
Jay
https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?mount.exfat-fuse(8)
Jay
read dont assume
Jay
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/mounting-exfat-usb-with-freebsd.84671/
Jay
first match on ddg
Flan
https://github.com/openzfsonwindows/openzfs/releases
* Attempt to fix Notification BSOD
Flan
Getting a BSOD for using zfs is imo not worth it
Flan
ok, thanks, I'll switch to exfat
Flan
read dont assume
I don't think this is unfair, I searched the forum for a solution for mounting fat32lba correctly and everyone talked about just mounting as normal even though it doesn't work.
Jay
i found success stories for exfat in seconds
Gowen
I'm trying to setup a raspberry kiosk mode, but I have a vertical monitor. I've tried everything but can't set XWindow in vertical.
I add this line to .xinitrc
xrandr --output default --rotate 90
Don't work, change the config.txt to rotate 90 degrees rotates 180.
Usinf xrandr with display, different values and options. Don't work.
Any new idea?
Flan
is fat32lba exfat? I thought it was vfat
Flan
also, it seems lots of programs depend on /run but what makes it?
Flan
https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/desktop/#desktop-environments
mentions vscode but there is no vscode
Vinay
Can I discuss about exploit
X
https://indirector.cpusec.org/
Flan
xfce seems to be not capable of logging out
Flan
but then again, dbus is not running, which is weird because I installed it, its in rc.conf
UDENIX
https://michal.sapka.me/blog/2024/ladybird-inc/
Flan
Bah
Flan
Netsurf exists, and many others, nobody wished to use it
Flan
Also, I'm pretty sure Mozilla was funding rust because of the problems of c++ at scale
Flan
The web also won't be fixed, because the web gets funded via ads, why would you break something that funds your business? Brave tried to get away from it. Flattr was also a solution, but it's not gonna get better
Flan
I wouldn't say brave failed, it's the best browser IMO, but, what fuels the web are ads
Maxim
"fixing the web" doesn't mean getting rid of ads: it only means making sure you don't need at least 8GB of RAM to bloody browse the web
Flan
The ad makers don't care, YouTubes ads are video, even YouTube music ads are video, because showing a video is the way to generate more money.
Maxim
you completely miss the point
Maxim
like, it flew around 5 meters from you
Flan
Take a look at the history / invention of cookies.
Flan
Don't be despective
Maxim
what do the cookies have to do with modern-ish browsers requiring me to have 16 GB of memory and not being pleased with that?
Maxim
thirty. two. gigabytes. of RAM
Maxim
to run a bloody browser of bloody web pages
Flan
You think I don't know that?
Flan
I'm on a laptop, dual core
Maxim
then what are you talking about?
Flan
I'm talking about the reality of the situation
Maxim
what you are talking about is a different situation
Flan
We can all move to gopher, build a farm, sing cumbaya. But that doesn't explain what is actually wrong with browsers. It's not a technical problem but a monetary one
Maxim
it's also a technical one, though
Flan
I disagree on that.
Maxim
I disagree on that.
what I am saying is, it might be not only a technical issue, but it's not wise to ignore the technical component of it
Flan
a browser couldve been built using Xembed, built a pager for html and everything else and link it like you do tabbed and surf and youd have a good browser.
Maxim
Flan
That's a webkit problem. What I'm saying here is a browser is for web yes, but they've also removed support for any other protocol that isn't "web" do you can't clean nor can you move anywhere else
Flan
If you can't even move away from the protocol, how could a browser ever be better
Maxim
Maxim
what are you trying to say? That I "can't use email, because they've blocked it"? The f is that.
Flan
I'm saying the browser and the web are nothing more than glorified pagers. People who make websites in gopher or gemini or any other protocol are not a part of the browser, what's most important in a browser is not the HTML5 but the URL aspect. If you can't switch to a leaner scheme than http+HTML5+js then you can't move away from the bloated aspect of it
Flan
JavaScript itself was slower, we got V8 and so on, but this is all a limitation of html itself, http using cookies is a limitation because there's no good authentication protocol. So it gets bloated and more bloated
Flan
You can use Dillo, it's fine, it uses 100mb of ram total, I use it for references. But it doesn't support HTML5
Maxim
I see you know something, but don't have any idea what any of that means
Flan
What don't you know?
Flan
I may not be explaining myself clearly
Maxim
Flan
The history of cookies surprised me towards how important the monetary aspect of it is. Tracking as well. Even though we are all about how evil it is. Google was built on it.
Flan
Take a look at rebol and reds experiments in building a table
Flan
I shouldn't blame JavaScript, given rebols experiments