Vedrovid
:/ so the package does not include right dependencies, right?
Vedrovid
something is mixed...
Maxim
let me attempt to fix that
Maxim
once I fix that, I'll notify you with the recipe (might be an easy fix)
Vedrovid
slava bratko!
Maxim
seriously, tho, looks like a bug in the package: it was built with a fresher version of Qt in mind
Maxim
ah, I see what the problem is run pkg upgrade, it will update Qt version as well
Vedrovid
thank you so much! im pretty new to freebsd so I totaly forgot i should do pkg upgrade sometimes :D
Maxim
yeah, confirmed: update Qt to 6.7, then just run calibre, will work
Vedrovid
What is the standard procedure if i find some program not behaving as expected? I have tried using sigrok-cli/pulseview programs for electronics projects but it doesnt behave as it should. Id much rather run programs native instead of trying to do it in a VM or on sepparate linux computer. Should i contact a maintainer to ask where is the problem? Or post on forums?
X
https://9to5linux.com/icewm-3-5-lightweight-window-manager-released-with-new-features
Sadra
Greetings , Guys can someone tell me the differences between linux and BSD ?? i mean why someone may choose FreeBSD rather than choosing linux ? what are the benefits , security measures and etc about bsd systems ?
X
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LBC_EnJU9HI&feature=youtu.be
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https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2020/09/07/quare-freebsd/
A pool of wisdom! I always enjoy reading words by vermaden. Great website. 👍🏻
Sadra
https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2020/09/07/quare-freebsd/
Wow this is unique I couldn't find this even on FreeBSD website that is being said clearly ... Awesome Thank you
haidar - love 🇲🇨🇵🇸
Anyone work as DevOps with FreeBSD exclusively ? What cloud computing stack ? I am still trying to figure out how tech stack like ansible, kube, openshift, CI, clustering in FreeBSD
Vedrovid
does anyone use hplip on freebsd?
Rincewind
Yes
トミ
Anyone work as DevOps with FreeBSD exclusively ? What cloud computing stack ? I am still trying to figure out how tech stack like ansible, kube, openshift, CI, clustering in FreeBSD
k8s is linux only. fbsd has jails. for all intends and purposes fbsd is the same as gnu/linux on VMs. i'd recomend using something like packer or plain ssh to build images. for CI jenkins should run on fbsd if you're into that clustering. hmmm. what's your usecase?
トミ
you still have bhyve and one of the many bhyve frontends called CBSD can actually run k8s on FreeBSD
lol. running linux containers in a linux guest on a freebsd host is not the same as running linux containers on freebsd
bittin-
https://www.bsdnow.tv/560
Константин
If anyone has problems with bhyve virtual machines after S3 mode, please add them to the topic for discussion. Tested more than 50 OS distributions. https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/bhyve-virtual-machine-after-s3-mode-glitches-or-freezes.93541/
Krond
I guess the same reason they don't have kqueue: noone is interested in porting it.
Neruq
I guess the same reason they don't have kqueue: noone is interested in porting it.
The developers themselves have to generate support for other distributions.
Krond
The developers themselves have to generate support for other distributions.
Can you name a rule or law that forces them to port their code to some.other.temporary.distro and support it forever ever?
Krond
Monkey job.
Neruq
Can you name a rule or law that forces them to port their code to some.other.temporary.distro and support it forever ever?
The rule of the 4 freedoms preached by the father of free software Richard Stallman
Krond
Whos that?
Krond
Well, he's free to do the porting anyway.
Krond
Porting any piece of code to Linux requires a deep understanding of Linux kernel principles, and also that means you need to become part of the community at least enough to understand how interfaces you will be using are evolved from release to release, so you can update your ported code after some breaking changes. Time to learn + time to port + time to participate + time to follow changes = a huge amount of manhours. At this point developer needs to decide whether he can spare this time, taking it from other projects, family, or sleeping. And I highly doubt this time would be paid.
Neruq
This isn't gnuland
Two systems that come from the same family, the same Unix origin, share many of the same features.
Krond
Linux is not Unix. And never was.
Krond
Actually I'm interested in FreeBSD because it never was trying to be like Linux. And I don't see a that huge difference between Windows and Linux nowadays.
haidar - love 🇲🇨🇵🇸
Haha, no sir. Still huge different. Even linux less secure ... Depend who use it.
haidar - love 🇲🇨🇵🇸
Actually I'm interested in FreeBSD because it never was trying to be like Linux. And I don't see a that huge difference between Windows and Linux nowadays.
And for this I could also said, I'm interested in OpenBSD now. Because I don't see that huge different between FreeBSD and Linux :P just FreeBSD ports problems :(
haidar - love 🇲🇨🇵🇸
hardware yes, but software no
haidar - love 🇲🇨🇵🇸
Trying linuxulator, one more step closer...
I could running many of Linux software in FreeBSD 14 using compat.
Neruq
I could running many of Linux software in FreeBSD 14 using compat.
The compatibility layer that FreeBSD has with linux is insufficient to attract more software.
haidar - love 🇲🇨🇵🇸
That's the good news. We don't need getting closer with linux
Neruq
That's the good news. We don't need getting closer with linux
But bsd does need more software and hardware support for day to day use in both desktop and non-desktop environments.
haidar - love 🇲🇨🇵🇸
it's still keep growing sir
Krond
Well, that's due to my experience you generally can find the software you need in ports, but chances to have it in Linux packages are critically low.
Neruq
Can you name a few?
For example, I want to visualize a device, I have not been successful.
Krond
Sorry, can you explain? I haven't understand that. Visualize how and what? What you want to get?
UDENIX
Audio Improvements The FreeBSD audio stack, much like FreeBSD itself, has garnered a reputation for its quality, reliability, and stability over the past two decades. There is still ample room for improvement, particularly in addressing a lack of audio development frameworks, missing userland utilities, and kernel driver bugs. Additionally, the Open Sound System (OSS) lacks native tools beyond mixer(8), leading users to rely on tools from multiple different audio systems (ALSA, PulseAudio, sndio) to compensate. To tackle these challenges, the FreeBSD Foundation is supporting Christos Margiolis to improve FreeBSD’s audio stack. The project aims to equip FreeBSD audio developers with the necessary tools and frameworks to streamline sound development. Upon completion, FreeBSD will boast a more stable audio stack, a broader array of userland audio programs, and a more coherent audio ecosystem overall. The introduction of new development frameworks is expected to stimulate native FreeBSD audio development, which will be particularly beneficial for those interested in using FreeBSD for music production. Link: https://freebsdfoundation.org/project/freebsd-audio-stack-improvements/
polyduekes
so i am trying to run a windows 10 ltsc iot virtual machine with bhyve on a pc using intel i5 650(legacy bios) but reading the guide at https://github.com/churchers/vm-bhyve/wiki/Running-Windows i thought it will run but it seems it needs vnc connection so i tried to follow the guide at https://github.com/churchers/vm-bhyve/wiki/UEFI-Graphics-(VNC) but it mentions a port namely "uefi-edk2-bhyve-csm" which i am unable to install for some reason(maybe because i don't have uefi and only bios) and i would also like to know in which directory i have to copy the firmware files because i am unable to locate the windows vm directory thanks in advance
Oliver
Hello, I upgraded from 12 to 13 to 14.0 as binary upgrade with freebsd-update. With 14.0 I cannot find the twe module anymore. Actually little bit annoying, on this raid is my DNS, and LDAP as jail. I cannot even log on to my desktop because it needs LDAP. Is twe gone, but man page says no. Where can I get the module?
Oliver
Right now I am limited to cell phone and a 80x25 console
Oliver
Hello, I upgraded from 12 to 13 to 14.0 as binary upgrade with freebsd-update. With 14.0 I cannot find the twe module anymore. Actually little bit annoying, on this raid is my DNS, and LDAP as jail. I cannot even log on to my desktop because it needs LDAP. Is twe gone, but man page says no. Where can I get the module?
Oliver
Right now I am limited to cell phone and a 80x25 console
Neruq
Yes
Tell me how you are using OpenBSD, I guess you are using it for server, because for desktop environment it lacks software and hardware support.
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
Tell me how you are using OpenBSD, I guess you are using it for server, because for desktop environment it lacks software and hardware support.
I suggest you discuss OpenBSD at https://t.me/openbsd_en (: definitely going to get more related environment
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
my end goal is to just be able to run windows 10 ltsc with bhyve
have you checked https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/virtualization/#virtualization-bhyve-windows ?
polyduekes
have you checked https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/virtualization/#virtualization-bhyve-windows ?
i didn't, don't know how i missed it, btw what does "uefi bootrom" means?
UDENIX
Tell me how you are using OpenBSD, I guess you are using it for server, because for desktop environment it lacks software and hardware support.
Yes, on server, but it can also be used on desktop, but you have to choose the right hardware. About the software, if any piece of software is missing you can always contribute by creating a port.
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Tell me how you are using OpenBSD, I guess you are using it for server, because for desktop environment it lacks software and hardware support.
Probably just another hobbyist, when you run no business you can use that kind of unreliable stuff 😹 because when shit goes wrong, no problem! you were doing nothing relevant anyways ;)
Jekyll
DEPRECATION NOTICE The twe driver is not present in FreeBSD 14.0.
Jekyll
From twe(4) on FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE.
UDENIX
Probably just another hobbyist, when you run no business you can use that kind of unreliable stuff 😹 because when shit goes wrong, no problem! you were doing nothing relevant anyways ;)
Nothing further from the truth, I have very important things hosted on OpenBSD, the only concern you may have is data corruption in the file system due to the lack of a self-healing system in FFS (like journaling), but you can almost certainly avoid this by using the stable branch (to avoid kernel panics) and using a UPS (to avoid power outages).
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Can you specify why you think it's unreliable
Try it yourself, if you have time to spend go ahead and install it on your laptop as the main OS
[]
I didnt mean that OpenBSD is unreliable for another use cases, for example when i design enterprise architecture im more than happy to use it as my border firewall, balancer gateway, etc. Because i can say them exactly what hardware they must buy and load my custom ramdisk over there, logs and boots over network no disk usage.
harmony5 🇺🇳 ⌤
1. My needs are met with web browser and a text editor. Those are available on openbsd. 2. You mentioned a business use case. You haven't answered my question regarding this. So it is reliable in a business use case