I don't see how that's possible... if they distribute a product that has GPL in it, they have to also release the source, and any competitor can also use it

if they don't release the source, the EFF will help you sue them

Also the Fsf

Microsoft uses mit only afaik for their oss projects

Apple makes bsd to apl(which is backwords incompactile and not preferd by the fsf) if they want tp contribute. See darwin for instance

in C:\Windows\system32\drivers (I think that's the path) you will find this directory called "etc"... and in that you find a hosts file and other goodies... snatched from BSD, long ago

Cisco's original gear was FreeBSD

Cisco's original gear was FreeBSD

Most of things now are BSD based

Even some linux code is borrowed from BSD

oh?

Hi everyone I'm new to FreeBSD. I was on virtual machine but now I want to install it on the main system

But there is a challenge, I have a SSD Hard and I want to install the system on it. But what should I do next with HDD Hard?

Hi everyone I'm new to FreeBSD. I was on virtual machine but now I want to install it on the main system

i have a usb/ata/ide connector i use to boot external hdd

What challenge? Is there anything on that hard drive you want to keep? Then back it up. Then install FreeBSD on it. The installer should recognize it.

A challenge for me, Because I could not find training to solve this issue. I do not have anything important in that Hard, but then as I said, it is useless and then I have to assign it to a specific partition or keep miscellaneous things in it?

what ever IS on it bsd most likely be able to see it.

training? don't you understand that experience is proportional to equipment ruined?

but seriously, to move past being a novice or newbie, you need to move from training to experimentation, and then to understanding

so pop in the DVD or USB stick and install FreeBSD, I bet you can figure it out

may be he should try using ghostbsd first live cd to check out the hardware before installing.

If Apple is BSD, why don't we have drivers and applications on FreeBSD as they are available for Mac OS X? Is that something to do with BSD license and freedom? Like, companies (or Apple) makes apps and drivers for MacOSX but they don't care to share the code or to make it available for FreeBSD, let's say, for whatsoever reason. Actually the reason is most probably a profit.

under the hood OSX is most certainly BSD

but again, the BSD license is a license to steal

you want a vendor to give back their changes? GPL your code

As someone mentioned earlier, how do you make profit then?

ya make and sell software people really want like solarwinds.

To sell software under GPL license?

no to peeps that wont share it cause it's got that fbi warning on it

But there is a challenge, I have a SSD Hard and I want to install the system on it. But what should I do next with HDD Hard?

Well. He has two DISKS, one SSD, one HDD. He wants to install FreeBSD, and he wants a fast boot operation. and he may want to use HDD for storing his data as I understood. @downhillflyer @n0madcoder

that's the way i understood it too. tho i suggested he try ghostbsd live cd to test out hardware.

but again, the BSD license is a license to steal

A licence to do whatever you want

As long as you give credit

that's the way i understood it too. tho i suggested he try ghostbsd live cd to test out hardware.

Abolfazl

Thanks

Even some linux code is borrowed from BSD

As FreeBSD from Linux. Also some GNU devs using BSD license aswell as MIT. The BSD components are also comefrom OpenBSD not FreeBSD. The LibreKernel only uses GPL btw. But the generic one is filled with cooperate stuff. Tragically FreeBSD reliese on Linux to much IMO. I mean who remembers on Gnu/Kfreebsd?

K.J., RMS (the guy that wrotte the GPL) sold emacs on tape (I think it was tape) to companies at over $100 a pop

FreeBSDebian was a flop, indeed

FreeBSDebian was a flop, indeed

may i ask where it went wrong? i sm working on somethinh simmilar

FreeBSD linuxulator? While it's mostly fine for running most of software it really was luckying support in a few areas.

Krond, Debian shipped a FreeBSD kernel and their userland, years ago: https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/

Sony does not contribute back. Netflix does. IIRC Apple does too.

Sony doesnt? Well, maybe not to essential parts of linux, but they are slowly mainlining theyr phones, thats also contribution to linux.

Sony doesnt? Well, maybe not to essential parts of linux, but they are slowly mainlining theyr phones, thats also contribution to linux.

He was referring to FreeBSD iirc. I heard somewhere that they do, in some way

He was referring to FreeBSD iirc. I heard somewhere that they do, in some way

Idk about bsd... They us it on playstations.

If bsd would be gpl, well we would get kernel source of playstations, which can be after some work used to run basically any os on it. Without jailbraking and waiting on relic system version for jb.

if that were the case, they would not use freebsd at all...

if that were the case, they would not use freebsd at all...

Most likely they would use something propertially and most likely full of bugs.

Thats how its suppoed to be. Its good that there is something stable also without GPL

But there are manufacters that doesnt follow gpl rules

Example is chineese head unit i bought to my mustang. There is no source code for kernel available.

I want to compile it with udf and iso9660 support to get external dvd rom working on it.

But no luck as they didnt followed GPL rules and didnt provide kernel source

If bsd would be gpl, well we would get kernel source of playstations, which can be after some work used to run basically any os on it. Without jailbraking and waiting on relic system version for jb.

And why sony should use an operating system like that?

And why sony should use an operating system like that?

Idk. They use heavy modified bsd.

Idk. They use heavy modified bsd.

Of course they do. And bsd licence let them to keep source code private . That is why they use bsd kernel

I understand why would they use BSD other than they like the license. The system is good, otherwise they wouldn't use it at all. Don't you think so? Do you think the license could be the only reason?

I understand why would they use BSD other than they like the license. The system is good, otherwise they wouldn't use it at all. Don't you think so? Do you think the license could be the only reason?

Ofc bsd is good. I just said that maybe if bsd would be gpl, we would get playstation kernel source.

Or worst scenario, they wouldnt use bsd then.

BSD as a system is better than Linux in my opinion

But GPL makes sense too

Or worst scenario, they wouldnt use bsd then.

Just a friendly reminder. Telegram has a strict policy on faking system accounts or folders. First time someone will report you this account becomes Deleted for real.

I don't have anything against BSD license either

Just a friendly reminder. Telegram has a strict policy on faking system accounts or folders. First time someone will report you this account becomes Deleted for real.

Thanx. But it does pretty well prevent crypto related spam.

You have settings in telegram to fix such problems

That's in privacy and security

Interesting. Anyway, move topics not related with BSD into the ot room, thanks (:

Interesting. Anyway, move topics not related with BSD into the ot room, thanks (:

There is ot room?

There is ot room?

Nvm. Found it.

I understand why would they use BSD other than they like the license. The system is good, otherwise they wouldn't use it at all. Don't you think so? Do you think the license could be the only reason?

Not the only reason . But it was an important reason

Hi! I actually can't switch my keyboard from a language to another either by mouse click or by predefined buttons (xfce4). Any suggestion?

after upgrading to 13 kde died... what to do?

after upgrading to 13 kde died... what to do?

What do the logs say?

What do the logs say?

Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!

Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!

could be yeah! (:

Nice catch

gui apps do not leave logs _n'est ce pas?_

plasma shell simply does not start, and when I launch it manually it just sits there doing nothing

and the application list is completely empty

gui apps do not leave logs _n'est ce pas?_

that must be in ur system, remove the > /dev/null

Nice catch

Thanx. Heared that in radio like half hour before i seen your post. 😁