Vyacheslav
Notte
Great! Now I can learn both C++ and Italian.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Code unitely
Anonymous
You have a group about phyton?😂🌚
Dima
phyton
Anonymous
I am new to programming...kindly suggest me a best book for learning C from the beginning itself😊
BinaryByter
Dima
try c# if you want something easier
BinaryByter
C# is a pile of bad habits
Dima
but that sexy syntax oohh uhhh
BinaryByter
Bun yea, if cpp is too hard, do csharp
Dima
I like net core side of c#
Dima
crossplatform
Dima
both are sexy in different ways
Dima
compatible lol
BinaryByter
Manuele
BinaryByter
Manuele
Welcome to 2015
Anonymous
😊tnq
Dima
what? this is my universal thing
Dima
lol
Dima
I cant say that c# and c-like languages are not beautiful
Dima
I like both
Dima
i have a job where am using both c# and c++ for backend, thats why I like these
Dima
ahahaha
Anonymous
For me, my job is writing hacky PoCs for IoT vulnerabilities
Anonymous
so I stick to C because 9 times out of 10 I don't need the features of C++
BinaryByter
BinaryByter
it's even slower!
BinaryByter
You will hack your enemy with the slowness of your language
Anonymous
But for me, writing C++ is slower because i can't remember the entirety of the STL so I spend forever looking it up
Anonymous
I can remember most of the common syscalls and such so its quick to write
BinaryByter
seems like you are not qualified to talk about C++ vs C then
Dima
Dima
BinaryByter
Anonymous
http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/
Anonymous
"C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung."
BinaryByter
Asdf
Anonymous
There are only two things wrong with C++: The initial concept and the implementation. – Bertrand Meyer
Anonymous
There are plenty of highly talented software engineers, including Bjarne himself, who have now come to dislike C++
BinaryByter
BinaryByter
and if you call linus torvald "highly talented", i'm glad not to be highly talented
Igor🇺🇦
Can anyone name me advantages of C over C++ for users ? The only 2 things u can think of are: binary interoperability and, maybe, kernel programming because C++ is not fully supported there.
BinaryByter
what?
BinaryByter
Kernel programming?
BinaryByter
I do kernel programming in C++
BinaryByter
it's SOOO much easier than in C
Igor🇺🇦
But as I said - you can't use C++ fully there. You can use some subset of C++
BinaryByter
No
Igor🇺🇦
Yes.
BinaryByter
We DO use C++ fully
BinaryByter
what feature couldnt you use?
Igor🇺🇦
Exceptions
BinaryByter
yea, we don't use those, thats right
BinaryByter
but thats pretty much the only thing and they are discouraged
Igor🇺🇦
Can't use regular new, delete.
BinaryByter
You make your own
BinaryByter
works well
Igor🇺🇦
Stdlib doesn't work fully without those
BinaryByter
i know
Igor🇺🇦
That's what I call subset
BinaryByter
Well new and delete don't work in C
BinaryByter
as well*
Igor🇺🇦
I know
Igor🇺🇦
So?
BinaryByter
So C++ > C even in kernel dev
BinaryByter
Sumeet
😑
BinaryByter
why wouldnt I praise C++?
BinaryByter
C is utter shit