Dima
j@ke
what a good boii
j@ke
Dima
Anonymous
wait
Jussi
Too fast
Anonymous
Dima
mmm lisp
j@ke
yeth this maksh sense
Anonymous
the heart of the open source
Anonymous
It doesn't seem to apply to lisp any more than any other open language though
Jussi
Jussi
Yeah
Anonymous
It doesn't seem to apply to lisp any more than any other open language though
dunno , but , .. reading
Jussi
Do you know C?
Jussi
...
Anonymous
no*
Jussi
For real
Anonymous
I know C but
Jussi
Dont read a book about lisp without first learning some actual programming language
Anonymous
its just useless when you don't know about kernels and etc
Jussi
No its not
Jussi
I would really suggest you to learn C first
Jussi
Well I think you didnt put over 10 hours effort into it
Anonymous
emacs is the only thing still alive that lisp is still useful for
Anonymous
so don't bother learning CL if you think C is not useful
j@ke
discounting this conversation of lisp of course 😆
Jussi
emacs is the only thing still alive that lisp is still useful for
Yeah, lisp is kind of useless for me at least
Anonymous
so don't bother learning CL if you think C is not useful
C isn't useful for me , while I am not in ASM while I must learn it but I'll do but not in planning to do so soon
Jussi
I prefer the mov 4, esp ayntax
Jussi
Syntax
Jussi
nasm vs gas whatever
Anonymous
well , for me , it doesn't matter while its all asm
Anonymous
C isn't useful for me , while I am not in ASM while I must learn it but I'll do but not in planning to do so soon
thats why I see C isn't useful , because there are a lot to learn before it
while I learnt C before but didn't learn what I've to learn before I start with C
Igor🇺🇦
emacs is the only thing still alive that lisp is still useful for
Closure is a dialect of Lisp and is pretty popular.
Anonymous
Closure is a dialect of Lisp and is pretty popular.
clojure and it's not used for proper codebases
Anonymous
it's a hobby language, like all FP languages
Jussi
thats why I see C isn't useful , because there are a lot to learn before it
while I learnt C before but didn't learn what I've to learn before I start with C
IMO C is a very good starting point. What should you learn before it in your opinion?
Jussi
Assembly?
Jussi
Assembly is not a good starting point
Jussi
:D
Jussi
Well depends on what you wanna learn
Anonymous
you have to learn how the things is operated underthehood before you see C as useful language
Jussi
you have to learn how the things is operated underthehood before you see C as useful language
Or then you can code C and not care about how it turns the code into asswmbly
Igor🇺🇦
clojure and it's not used for proper codebases
These companies don't agree with you https://clojure.org/community/companies 😉
Anonymous
unless you wanna develop with some retard things like anything try to implement objects in c or whatever
Jussi
I wouldnt care less about into which memory segment the const char* will be stored versus a char[] both being char pointers but const char* being read only
Jussi
I only need to know that the const one is read only
Anonymous
like gtk / or like you wanna use vala for e.g or ..etc
Jussi
I dont care about the assembly under it
Anonymous
I mean , to use C for high level things is somehow retard idea
Anonymous
while you have java / cpp
Jussi
Ofc it is
Jussi
But for writing a simple socket server it's the best language imo
Anonymous
and to use it for lowlevel things without a good knowledge of the things operated underthehood is also retard idea imo
Anonymous
I write all of my UI stuff in C
Jussi
You haven't learned it enough
Jussi
Clearly
Jussi
You dont need to know how the abstraction of a socket works under the hood
Anonymous
With enough knowledge, C can easily replace python/perl/bash etc
Jussi
Just bind, accept, read/write
Jussi
Forgot listen
Anonymous
😆