[mifritscher] yournick|44236: ah, nice

[hbelusca] ok in case the guy comes back:

[hbelusca] http://reactos.org/wiki/Installing_ReactOS

[hbelusca] just provide this to him ^

[Grapher] Hi

[mjansen] hi

[mifritscher] yournick|44236: It can be that it is merged after the new release is finished. Perhaps then even the pnpmgr race condiition thing with the ati driver is fixed ( I think the patch for that is from vk as well)

[Grapher] For someone who has absolutely no idea how things work, where do you suggest she should start to being contributing?

[mifritscher] a D531 with gpu acceleration, USB and network would be a very nice show case at conferences to show our progress :-)

[mifritscher] (network being already working, USB with vk's patches)

[hbelusca] Grapher: by looking at reactos.org/wiki I suppose.

[hbelusca] mjansen: lol at https://github.com/reactos/reactos/pull/431 :DD

some hindoo PR here :D

[Grapher] @hbelusca I have been to that page but I have near zero background in OS development. I find things as they are now pretty complicated. I probably need to start from the basics of OS dev. I don't know where exactly to start.

[Grapher] My highest achievement is to print text on the screen and read input from the keyboard. That's it!

[hbelusca] Grapher: do you have some knowledge of win32 user-mode environment at least?

[Grapher] @hbelusca Unfortunately no.

[hyoenmadan] <Grapher>: you're required to have basics in Win32 or NT to contribute code to ReactOS... if not, there are tother tasks you can do

[hyoenmadan] as translation works, app testing, etc

[hyoenmadan] https://www.reactos.org/testing

[hyoenmadan] https://www.reactos.org/participation

[hyoenmadan] https://www.reactos.org/developing >>> for this one you're required a bit of self learning attitude, here isn't an online Win32/NT programming course channel

[mifritscher] if you insist on programming, a nice start point could be the several command line tools (both in reactos and rosapps)- some of these have easy to fix bugs or missing functionality

[mifritscher] thinks of the parameter parser of the shutdown tool which he fixed some time ago

[hbelusca] http://abload.de/image.php?img=reactos-amd64-setuporu4x.png

WE GETTING X64?!?!?!?!

[hbelusca] as you can see.

[hbelusca] it's still in a branch though.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Grapher] What about learning Win32/NT?

[Grapher] It could take several months or maybe a year or more but I don't mind

But x64 will be a kinda useless for some time ))

[hbelusca] @jeditobe we don't care.

[mifritscher] Grapher: I think in the console applications you get some "feeling" for programming - and there is already always the chance to dig deeper into Win32 or NT things ;-)

I know you dont care )) that was not said for you :-)))

[hbelusca] sanchaez : is there a way to see who's on telegram by using your bot?

[mifritscher] Then I would to try some basic GUI things (like the winhello2/3 things which were written looooong time ago) to get some warm-ups with Win32 API "thinkings"

[hbelusca] now that someone mentioned it:

[hbelusca] http://winprog.org/tutorial/

[hbelusca] can be of some help

[sanchaez] hbelusca: that's not my bot, it's x86corez

[hbelusca] x86corez: then the question is for you :p

[sanchaez] I've tried a very different experiment

[x86corez] what question?

[hbelusca] [20:21:05] <@hbelusca> sanchaez : is there a way to see who's on telegram by using your bot?

[x86corez] ah... I don't think there's a way

[x86corez] only to request somebody to take screenshot

[sanchaez] And I think not, but you can safely assume that @jeditobe and @x86corez are always on the other side :D

[x86corez] the same for telegrammers - they couldn't see who is on IRC now

[sanchaez] Me too, but please ping by nickname

[sanchaez] x86corez, hbelusca: in matrix you can see both ;) (if Telegam-Matrix bridge is used)

[x86corez] there is 261 users in TG group now... they all would get into clients list? o_O

[x86corez] *there are

[sanchaez] I've tried IRC-Matrix-Telegram bridge

[sanchaez] setup*

[sanchaez] No x86corez, but you can see them in Matrix

[x86corez] ah ok

[sanchaez] They don't appear in IRC unless they write smth

[hbelusca] i see.

[x86corez] hacks :p

[sanchaez] And they appear as individual users

[sanchaez] Unlike the bot used here

[hbelusca] dunno, the bot could have some "!list" command

[hbelusca] (to be entered in a PM)

[x86corez] I used Sameroom bot, recommended by mjansen

wait a holy minute

this bot also sends messages to the irc channel?

holy shit this is from IRC?

[x86corez] @the1freeman yes :)

[hbelusca] yes I see you @the1freeman

[hbelusca] @vanilix yes

:D

holy mother of... usefulness?

this bot also sends messages to the irc channel?

huh something useful for once

sweet

[hbelusca] do you see what we write here?

yee

[hbelusca] good then:)

Spam joining campaign worked :D