i'd like to take a moment and thank you for introducing me to this stallman sticker pack

Сначала я рускурил, что ты из России по незаглавной букве i и незаглавной у Столлмана. Настоящие онглечане всегда уделяют шифту много внимания.

затем я посмотрел твои фоточки в телеграме. он хранит историю всех фоточек. СЮРПРАЙЗ

wasn't there a rule that stablishes english only?

I think so

А смысл?

We don't really have rules here yet :p

some of us don't speak russian

that includes me

i understand a little, but that's it

Ok

That's my cue

Yeah, please in English, guys :) Not all here speak Russian :)

some of us don't speak russian

I can't believe. Your photos in Telegram show us opposite.

Yeah, please in English, guys :) Not all here speak Russian :)

Why not to pin a message with rules?

I think that's a good idea :)

sorry, i didn't wanted to annoy :(

No problem, I think, I doubt your posts annoyed anybody

https://github.com/ponyorm/pony/issues/162

So, how to run tests ?

ImportError: No module named ponytest

We start refactoring of tests in order to execute them with all supported databases, and not only with SQLite. Right now to run tests you need to clone this module: https://github.com/abetkin/ponytest. Currently we are discussing should this part of code be separate package which pony depends on, or it should be part of pony itself. Before making new release we should choose what to do.

I'm sure that it should be bundled together with pony itself

What is the reason to split ponytest into separate project ?

The creator of this module (Vitalii Abetkin) thinks it may be useful outside of Pony. I think tomorrow he can comment on this

Looks like asyncio module for Python. It is developed in separate git-repo and when Python release is coming, it is COPIED into Python's VCS.

I think you may use same strategy regarding ponytest module.

May be, thanks for the suggestion

This is important, since we run tests for every package we build. Without that we should either disable tests (as we do) or package ponytest and make it as build-dependency.

In https://editor.ponyorm.com I still can't scroll the Attribute properties, making it impossible to remove attributes.

In https://editor.ponyorm.com I still can't scroll the Attribute properties, making it impossible to remove attributes.

Ok, will check that on a small screen

ah i see

Ok, will check that on a small screen

Actually I can scroll it, but the minimap is in the way

it's scroll-y but the minimap is rendering over it

yeah

Also DB settings are not reflected in the generated code.

it's scroll-y but the minimap is rendering over it

If I delete the DOM node of the map, the Delete button is still slightly out of the frame, without giving me scrollbars.

it'll be because the sidebar is set top top:60px or something

it's actually taller but gets clipped by the browser window

Welcome!

Thanks :)

Pony is raising ImportError: No module named 'psycopg2' During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: ImportError: No module named 'psycopg2cffi'

If you want to use Pony with PostgreSQL, you need to install psycopg2 database driver: http://initd.org/psycopg/docs/

On which language Pony is written?

Python

spasibo

sure

Pony is raising ImportError: No module named 'psycopg2' During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: ImportError: No module named 'psycopg2cffi'

Huh. I searched the documentation, and could only find https://docs.ponyorm.com/firststeps.html?highlight=dependencies

It states it doesn't need anything

psycopg2 is not required to use Pony. It is possible to use just Pony if the database that you use is SQLite. But for other databases it is necessary to use specific database connectors. Pony does not specify these connectors as dependencies, because they are necessary only for some people who use specific database

Maybe you should include that in that paragraph, that depending on the database there is something needed.

Agreed

I think this is a good point, thanks

this is how pewee describe it

http://docs.peewee-orm.com/en/latest/peewee/installation.html

I think this is a good point, thanks

Maybe link to https://docs.ponyorm.com/database.html, and list the requirements per database there?

http://docs.peewee-orm.com/en/latest/peewee/installation.html

You mean the "Optional dependencies" part, right? http://docs.peewee-orm.com/en/latest/peewee/installation.html#optional-dependencies

yeah the note section there

If you want to use Pony with PostgreSQL, you need to install psycopg2 database driver: http://initd.org/psycopg/docs/

It seems it isn't checking for drivers or whatever when I create the database as a "postgres" DB, but waits for the first actually usage?

Never mind, that might be a import failure on my end

If provider specified when the Database instance is defined (i.e. Database('postgres', ...)) then it will be checked at this point. Otherwise, if Database is created without arguments, the connection have place on db.bind(...) method call

Was my fault, I imported the database objects locally, in a function

How would I upsert a object? Say I have a Ùser` with id (Primary key, but given, not auto incremet) and a name. Now I want to create him if a User with that id doesn't exist, else update the value.

We plan to add special upsert method. Right now you can write something like that: user = User.get(id=user_id) if user is not None: user.name = user_name else: user = User(id=user_id, name=user_name)

In a more simple case (if name is unique secondary key and id is auto-incement) you can write: user = User.get(name=user_name) or User(name=user_name)

Cool. Thanks!

I noticed, If you edit at the online editor, and have text changes in the properties pane, the text only gets saved if I unfocus that field, by clicking in some other field. It doesn't store the content if I click on the "Python Code" tab, and if I come back, the change is lost.

Thanks for reporting, we should fix it

ValueError: Value -1001032895287 of attr StickerMessage.chat_id is less than the minimum allowed value -2147483648

What can I do?

Using Postgres.

Found https://github.com/ponyorm/pony/issues/18#issuecomment-60963183

The datatypes in the docs is somehow lacking. It just is a list, without any description

so size=64 and unsigned=False

But got pony.orm.core.UnexpectedError: Object StickerMessage[-1001032895287] cannot be stored in the database. DataError: integer out of range

An unsigned attribute with size 64 can be represented only in MySQL and Oracle.

Could that be the issue