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Ahmed
20.09.2017
21:52:49
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RafaBash
20.09.2017
22:11:07
Ok thanks

Fernando
20.09.2017
22:30:33
how to wrap lines in GNOME Builder?

LinuxIRC
21.09.2017
08:59:48
Jolla opens Sailfish OS hardware adaption source code for the Sony Xperia X The now available hardware adaption sources and instructions are targeted at skilled developers to create their own images in order to try out Sailfish OS on Xperia X before official releases, and if possible help Jolla by contributing back to the open sourced HW adaption repositories. With given instructions it should as well be possible to port Sailfish OS to other Sony Open Devices. - Official blog post: https://blog.jolla.com/xperiax-open-source-hw-adaptation/ - Sailfish OS HADK for Xperia X: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish_X_Build_and_Flash - IRC #sailfishos-porters: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#sailfishos-porters

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Kohane
21.09.2017
09:30:59
Is rpm fusion like non free debian repo?
Sort of. But while Non free Debian is supported by Debian itself, RPM Fusion is third party and not supported by Fedora Project.

Misha
21.09.2017
09:45:29
Hi guys, how to install mysql , so it was immediately prompted to create a password root

Sheogorath
21.09.2017
10:01:24
@admins ?

@ritzk
21.09.2017
10:24:04
Hi guys, how to install mysql , so it was immediately prompted to create a password root
https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mysql/how-to-install-mysql-on-centos-6

Athos
21.09.2017
11:55:00
Sort of. But while Non free Debian is supported by Debian itself, RPM Fusion is third party and not supported by Fedora Project.
This. There's no relation between Fedora and rpmfusion (from a Fedora point of view). They are different things

#!/
21.09.2017
11:57:19
hi, how can i free size from partition and add it to root partition

Kohane
21.09.2017
12:01:05
hi, how can i free size from partition and add it to root partition
You can't because both are mounted. Maybe there's a way using a live CD (so both partitions are unmounted) but it never worked for me.

Sheogorath
21.09.2017
12:04:40
usually, yes

#!/
21.09.2017
12:04:53
Sheogorath
21.09.2017
12:05:20
thanks
my full system install takes 30GB and there are already tons of docker images included

okay ~10GB are docker images

#!/
21.09.2017
12:06:55
Very good

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Владислав
21.09.2017
12:07:08
root partition have 50G, is it enough ?
With GNOME and lot of libs and tools I still can live with 20GiB

fox.py
21.09.2017
12:09:12
root partition have 50G, is it enough ?
My root is 50G, too, and it's usage is ~8 gigs.

fox.py
21.09.2017
12:10:09
Archlinux: base, base-devel, xfce and lots of other shit.

#!/
21.09.2017
12:13:45
Iam using Fedora Workstation, and it's usage is 17 G

Kohane
21.09.2017
12:19:38
Liam
21.09.2017
12:21:41
For what it's worth, I usually use 16GiB for / (the root filesystem), 2 * physical RAM for swap (especially on laptops, mainly for hibernation) and the rest as /home. In my experience 16 GiB is plenty.

Arranged as: * root first, primary partition * then an extended partition with the rest of the disk space * in that: * /home * swap -- right at the end

This works well for all distros. The primary/extended/logical drive thing only applies to MBR partitioned hard disks. With GPT hard disk, there are only primary partitions.

Martin
21.09.2017
12:29:30
16G works only if you're on a lightweight spin and keep your eye on the disk usage a lot

if a nonexperienced user hits full usage of the root partition, it's pretty much a death sentence to the system

Liam
21.09.2017
12:31:59
That seems a lot to me. I have 4-to-5-year-old installs of Ubuntu in 16GB partitions which have been upgraded through every version in between and are still working fine, usually with the partition about 50% full.

NB this is with a separate /home partition, though, _always_.

Martin
21.09.2017
12:32:59
F27 Workstation, with a separate /home partition and just a bunch of development tools installed: 21G Used on /

and you need quite a lot of space for update and (eventually) upgrade RPMs

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Tobias?
21.09.2017
12:33:51
Buuut



Tobias?
21.09.2017
12:36:30
Martin
21.09.2017
12:36:30
it's not

Liam
21.09.2017
12:38:05
I am curious... Does the beta version use more disk space than the final release?

Martin
21.09.2017
12:38:15
no

Liam
21.09.2017
12:38:58
That is a big OS. ? What extras do you have installed, may I ask?

Martin
21.09.2017
12:39:36
qt5 development libraries, mostly; some debuginfo packages

also some apps i use, like spotify (flatpak) and a few KDE apps

anyway, i was just trying to make the point that the installer suggests you to go with a 50GB / partition, which is perfectly sensible for a regular user and it may not even be enough for some use cases

i would definitely not go for less

Liam
21.09.2017
12:45:31
I am taken aback. OK, I retract my comments about size then!

Entro.py
21.09.2017
14:22:12
And i never do swap if possible
How much ram do you have

Swap is pretty useful for suspend on disk

Liam
21.09.2017
14:23:59
Swap is pretty useful for suspend on disk
Exactly. That is what I meant when I said it was mainly for hibernation -- and I only use that on notebooks/laptops.

Tobias?
21.09.2017
14:31:29
How much ram do you have
16gb/24gb on most machines - but even my tablet with 4g is doing very fine with running fedora

Liam
21.09.2017
15:01:45
16gb/24gb on most machines - but even my tablet with 4g is doing very fine with running fedora
This mighrt explain something. I do not own a machine with as much as 16GB of RAM, either at home or at work. My laptops have 4-6-8GB and my biggest personal server has 12GB.

Kohane
21.09.2017
15:52:27
Tobias?
21.09.2017
16:29:14
Certainly, you don’t need any swap.
I actually have one machine with swap enabled

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Tobias?
21.09.2017
16:29:18


Fernando
21.09.2017
16:36:19
I hibernate a lot

Владислав
21.09.2017
16:40:04
I hibernate a lot
You have no troubles with state restoring?

Umang
21.09.2017
16:55:38
I have no swap, I hibernate, I don't face any problems there

Sheogorath
21.09.2017
16:56:23
Hibernate or suspend?
Hint: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management/Suspend_and_hibernate#Hibernation

Владислав
21.09.2017
17:27:19
Hibernate or suspend?
Suspending works pretty well, but hibernation isn't. All data restored and then everything freezes. Only reboot helps.

Fernando
21.09.2017
17:37:12
Akshay
21.09.2017
17:51:29
Can anyone please tell me, Is there any difference between shell of ubuntu and fedora?

Sachin S.
21.09.2017
17:55:15
Akshay
21.09.2017
17:56:07
Yes

Tobias?
21.09.2017
17:56:18
Can anyone please tell me, Is there any difference between shell of ubuntu and fedora?
Not really. But i recommend doing so and installing oh-my-zsh, zsh syntax highlighting and enabling some extras - as well as using tilix.

And setting a theme for oh-my-zsh as the first thing you do

Akshay
21.09.2017
17:57:00
Which terminal commands are simpler, ubuntu or fedora?

Tobias?
21.09.2017
17:57:53
The base system commands remain the same - the only difference is apt becomes dnf

Akshay
21.09.2017
17:58:39
Ok

Thanks to all?

Tobias?
21.09.2017
18:01:15
Heck i should write an article for that sometime

Kohane
21.09.2017
18:16:08
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Fernando
21.09.2017
18:47:10
Hibernation is the most common reason

Tobias?
21.09.2017
18:49:45
Any reason in particular?
The server depicted in the screenshot below that hosts several vms for me and friends - i dont want someone going way beyond their usual usage to kill th entire server. XD

Sheogorath
21.09.2017
19:02:59
Hibernation is the most common reason
Chrome is another one :D it works nice with enough RAM or Swap but is able to kill your DE if you run out of Memory

Antoine
21.09.2017
19:12:12
I just reinstalled the Nvidia driver from Negativo17 and to my surprise, Wayland started working. I logged into Sway and I launched a game that runs on Wine and it worked perfectly yet the NVIDIA driver is not supposed to support XWayland. What exactly is happening?

Tobias?
21.09.2017
19:14:04
I just reinstalled the Nvidia driver from Negativo17 and to my surprise, Wayland started working. I logged into Sway and I launched a game that runs on Wine and it worked perfectly yet the NVIDIA driver is not supposed to support XWayland. What exactly is happening?
He packs in the nvidia made display architecture that no distro wants to ship because its a broken horrible mess that will likely not make it into the kernel and everyone waits for nvidia to adapt it to the widely used standard i think.

same reason why amd has to redo their display abstraction layer too - the kernel devs said it was too much of a mess to be included so back to the refactoring for amd.

Antoine
21.09.2017
19:15:50
Well, honestly, im suprised it works so well. Sway isn't really my thing but the game I played didn't have any performance loss at all. Everything worked perfectly fine. Wayland + NVIDIA + Sway is a fantastic combination though it seems

Tobias?
21.09.2017
19:17:11
Until the next kernel update, yes. XD

Fedora and nvidia is pure luck to get working consitently - nvidia is lazy and slow to adapt because they rather work on getting their stuff ready for the slow ubuntu release cycle.

KDE+Nvidia is still broken as of right now and kde nvidia fedora users had quite a long time without working DE afaik.

Antoine
21.09.2017
19:18:38
KWin was always horrible on NVIDIA for me on any distribution

The screen tearing is very visible

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