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Bohemia
17.09.2017
13:46:45
Sehr gut

a
17.09.2017
14:08:09
https://robindoherty.com/2016/01/06/nothing-to-hide.html Why privacy is important, and having "nothing to hide" is irrelevant

https://www.teachprivacy.com/10-reasons-privacy-matters/ 10 Reasons Why Privacy Matters - TeachPrivacy

Just two links here to start off with. Most users feel that privacy shouldn't matter. But it does

Google
a
17.09.2017
14:09:21
One of us will keep on posting the links. Feel free to discuss. We are all learning.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/15/apple-responds-to-safari-11-criticism/ Apple Responds to Safari 11 Criticism From Advertising Groups: 'People Have a Right to Privacy' - Mac Rumors

https://consumerist.com/2017/09/15/would-you-take-a-dna-test-at-an-nfl-game-the-baltimore-ravens-want-you-to/

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/la-ca-jc-world-without-mind-20170912-story.html

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/09/isps-can-keep-sharing-your-browsing-history-after-california-no-vote/

/welcome Welcome $name to Privacy and Surveillance! We urge you to keep the discussion on course, be civil and nice! Here's also an essential reading on why surveillance is not okay: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/wiki/surveillance_not_ok Please contribute to the discussion ! Cheers!

a
17.09.2017
14:21:44
Added this link: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/wiki/surveillance_not_ok This is a good starting point around here.

/welcome Welcome $name to Privacy and Surveillance! We urge you to keep the discussion on course, be civil and nice! Kindly follow the pinned rules. It would also help if you contribute to the discussion here! Thanks and Cheers!

a
17.09.2017
14:24:40
Facing issues with the markdown. Welcome mesage changed.

TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:20:50
finally a group that has to listen to what i have to say

Google
TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:21:13
log less

a
17.09.2017
15:21:36
finally a group that has to listen to what i have to say
And get more users, you'll have a very eager audience as well.

TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:22:27
first things first

get rid of any non gnu software

from pc

remove gapps from mobile

get rid of any non gnu software
you can keep mit, bsd or compiled from source software

a
17.09.2017
15:23:42
We all try

TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:23:53
remember GPL v2 > GPL v3

GApps alternatives Monety - See your imaginary value (money) converted into another imaginary value. 21st money isn't based on anything but the belief it's a resource to use. Save from tourist traps. NewPipe - Mimimal Youtube Nextcloud - Open source file storage. Install YUNOHOST for an easy installation of nextcloud and open a port on your home router. Depending on your threat model this would change. oandbackup - backup data Obscuracam - blur images and remove metadata. Make it harder to track the photographer. Have to use the default gallery or phone camera app else things break. Openshift - change the RGB values in the LEDs your android device uses. Decreasing blue makes it easier on the eyes in low light. Orbot - Tor proxy Orfox - hardened firefox for Tor(Orbot) OsmAnd~ Offline maps. Never get lost anywhere because GPS is calculated on the phone itself as minimum of 3 satellites around the earth is constantly broadcast all the time due the US public money. The GPS receiver in the phone looks at the signals coming from 3 different satellites to determine the location, therefore 1) GPS doesn't track the users and 2) everyone in the world doesn't pay for it. It uses the information from OpenStreetMaps. Use with Brouter as the routing algorithm to get more efficient bike routes. Pixelknot - hide information in text. Some websites compress images and breaks the algorithm for the hidden messages (I think. not 100% sure). Fun when works. QuickDic - offline dictionary. Rumble - Off-the-grid social network. Messages are distributed over the LAN or Bluetooth. It doesn't send messages over the wide network like you would do to connect to facebook therefore impossible to sensor and is very private. Shopping list - save money by avoiding the psychological manipulation shops use on their customers to buy things they didn't go out for. Silence - Extremely secure and private chat over SMS for Android devices. Anyone controlling the towers will know who you are talking to because of metadata however it's better than nothing. A friend might be poor and stupid because the price per message over data is usually cheaper than the price per message over sms. Smarter WI-FI Manager - Disables wifi when the device isn't near a wi-fi router by scanning for cell towers. This prevents very low cost tracking and attacks for wi-fi Survival Manual - Literally a survival manual with information taken from publicly published material from the US Army. Tasks - todo list. can sync to a server too. Termux - Better terminal and has a package manager. Transportr - Find timings for public transport. Yalp Store - Open source google play store.

use FDroid if on Android

idk about iOS

set up vpn based in non compromising countries

Nothing
17.09.2017
15:32:17
a
17.09.2017
15:32:47
This is awesome list!

TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:33:05
Why?
gapps is absolute cancer in terms of privacy

TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:33:37
also get rid of windows

Google
Nothing
17.09.2017
15:33:44
Why? You mean we shouldn't trust Google apps?

TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:34:17
Why? You mean we shouldn't trust Google apps?
would you trust your neighbors to read every single keystroke and message that you send

then why would you trust Google

Nothing
17.09.2017
15:35:24
But I like their services ? Removing all these and using alternatives would be a lot of pain

TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:35:31
also get rid of windows
if you think it'll be difficult or you'll not understand Linux you're wrong. you can use gnu/linux distros with gnome or kde which work exactly like windows

Nothing
17.09.2017
15:35:32
I've never had any problem

They don't sell data, do they?

TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:36:02
But I like their services ? Removing all these and using alternatives would be a lot of pain
you have to ask yourself this, is the comfort of using that worth your privacy

Google's entire revenue comes from selling data

Nothing
17.09.2017
15:36:35
I'm on custom ROM. So I can't trust them either?

TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:37:13
Nothing
17.09.2017
15:37:49
I think so

TheAnig
17.09.2017
15:40:54
if yes then it's probably safe

Admin


Bohemia
17.09.2017
15:54:47
TheAnig
17.09.2017
17:02:58
StriKe ?
17.09.2017
17:22:32
Check out @edwinarockia’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/edwinarockia/status/909448443101196290?s=09

Google
TheAnig
17.09.2017
17:30:03
their db is compromised

StriKe ?
17.09.2017
17:30:24
TheAnig
17.09.2017
17:41:15
By?
literally anyone

snake
17.09.2017
18:41:25
One of us will keep on posting the links. Feel free to discuss. We are all learning.
This right here! Sweeeet! There are a lot of rules and no questions allowed on noGapps group so this is awesome!

they killed kenny
17.09.2017
19:01:12
remove gapps from mobile
What about maps saar

snake
17.09.2017
19:03:45
GApps alternatives Monety - See your imaginary value (money) converted into another imaginary value. 21st money isn't based on anything but the belief it's a resource to use. Save from tourist traps. NewPipe - Mimimal Youtube Nextcloud - Open source file storage. Install YUNOHOST for an easy installation of nextcloud and open a port on your home router. Depending on your threat model this would change. oandbackup - backup data Obscuracam - blur images and remove metadata. Make it harder to track the photographer. Have to use the default gallery or phone camera app else things break. Openshift - change the RGB values in the LEDs your android device uses. Decreasing blue makes it easier on the eyes in low light. Orbot - Tor proxy Orfox - hardened firefox for Tor(Orbot) OsmAnd~ Offline maps. Never get lost anywhere because GPS is calculated on the phone itself as minimum of 3 satellites around the earth is constantly broadcast all the time due the US public money. The GPS receiver in the phone looks at the signals coming from 3 different satellites to determine the location, therefore 1) GPS doesn't track the users and 2) everyone in the world doesn't pay for it. It uses the information from OpenStreetMaps. Use with Brouter as the routing algorithm to get more efficient bike routes. Pixelknot - hide information in text. Some websites compress images and breaks the algorithm for the hidden messages (I think. not 100% sure). Fun when works. QuickDic - offline dictionary. Rumble - Off-the-grid social network. Messages are distributed over the LAN or Bluetooth. It doesn't send messages over the wide network like you would do to connect to facebook therefore impossible to sensor and is very private. Shopping list - save money by avoiding the psychological manipulation shops use on their customers to buy things they didn't go out for. Silence - Extremely secure and private chat over SMS for Android devices. Anyone controlling the towers will know who you are talking to because of metadata however it's better than nothing. A friend might be poor and stupid because the price per message over data is usually cheaper than the price per message over sms. Smarter WI-FI Manager - Disables wifi when the device isn't near a wi-fi router by scanning for cell towers. This prevents very low cost tracking and attacks for wi-fi Survival Manual - Literally a survival manual with information taken from publicly published material from the US Army. Tasks - todo list. can sync to a server too. Termux - Better terminal and has a package manager. Transportr - Find timings for public transport. Yalp Store - Open source google play store.
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they killed kenny
17.09.2017
19:04:07
?
Osm shit won't be even 3% close to maps

No traffic updates no local businesses

Nothing

snake
17.09.2017
19:04:41
They killed keeenny! You BASTARDS!

they killed kenny
17.09.2017
19:05:01
?

TheAnig
17.09.2017
19:44:32
No traffic updates no local businesses
traffic updates serves what purpose to you? it helps government dissolve riots and protests. it doesn't help you do anything

local businesses? you want advertisements or a map?

Osm shit won't be even 3% close to maps
it uses the same public domain maps that Google maps uses

only thing is it respects your privacy

snake
17.09.2017
19:48:11
lol.. i'd actually like the shortest route too.. but not at the sake of tracking when i'm even in the toilet. ? fuck google! & alphabet! ?

Argha
17.09.2017
19:55:13
Now since so many people Are active.. Happy to see that.. Let me come in

Aadhar is a fantastic project. When government plans a project.. It's plans it on the basis of many things... Not only one. So government of India ?? has to tackle terrorism from Pakistan ??. Sleeper cells so called. So they need some way to identify citizen & sleeper cells. It's just an idea & no idea is full proof. U all can see so many terrorist attacks in Europe & USA... India.. Why? Bcz even after technology... Smart people.. Nothing can never be perfect. Just how perfect it can her is the motto. So common back to aadhar... It's a mess in implementation. It's a mess in detailing, by which I mean.. It's ok the government had the details of the citizen but only only if be agrees to be answerable everytime we citizen ask question regarding how they are keeping our data. Which they(no country, not only India) does.

Google
Argha
17.09.2017
19:59:52
Due to its implementation.... It's become an privacy mess.

Casual approach from government planning departments... I guess intellegence agencies dominated the discussion panel.. Bcz this kind of approach can only be shown from intellegence community as they are only trained to gather information in any way possible.. Rather tuning about privacy ?

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